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Itís not austerity to only pay welfare to the needy : Comments

By David Leyonhjelm, published 14/5/2021

What is the point of giving taxpayersí money to those with such high incomes?

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"Enormous debt". Nota Bene - because that's what we have or, at least that's what future generations will have. The dumb bums who have incurred the debt, and seriously added to it with this week's vote-buying idiocy, won't have to repay it.

The first "support" that needs to be withdrawn is the dole for all but the very few who are unable to work. The dole is a safety net, not a way of life. Force lazy bastards to work, and stop importing aliens to do it for them. Then, look at middle class welfare, but remember that it is the middle class that is carrying everyone else. Have a good look at the disability pension, too, as well as the nonsense of paying people to look after other people's children. Women want work? OK, but do your natural job first, and stay with your children until they are ready for school. Your neglect as parents is the reason why we have two generations of totally ignorant, useless people needing support. Child care is theft; a total rort.

And yes, look at pensioners as well. If you can't afford to keep yourself, you can't expect to live in a mansion. My generation of (part) pensioners was severely battered by Morrison when he was Turnbull's treasurer. Now the loathsome creature can't find enough people to sling money at in order to keep his job. I gave away the free money he handed out to pensioners, who didn't really need it, because I regarded it to be the same as taking money from the Mafia.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 14 May 2021 8:40:11 AM
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Yet another example of middle class welfare is proposed subsidies for electric cars such as the $3k offered by Victoria. According to TV talking heads this is so inadequate as to make Australia an international laughing stock. Then last night Albo told us he would make inner suburb housing available to 10,000 low paid frontline workers. This is so jet setters using city hotels can have their rooms cleaned by people living nearby.

Soon the government will pay for everything deemed worthy. You have to wonder if it would be simpler just to let it sort itself out. Example electric car makers getting their prices way down or paying the city workers enough to live nearby.
Posted by Taswegian, Friday, 14 May 2021 9:03:08 AM
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Taswegian, you have touched on something the pollies do not understand.
Their idea to enforce 50% electric cars will probably be impossible.
The industry word is EV prices and IC car prices will be equal by 2025.
I just do not see it happening and if so their 50% regulation will fail.
The subsidy of $3000 by the Victorian government is silly as it does
not bring the price down to a significant amount. If it was $15000
then that would make a difference.
If there is a breakthrough in battery manufacturing that would make
a difference but I just do not see it coming.
Still subsidising everything that might affect CO2 is the fashion
so who knows.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 14 May 2021 11:02:02 AM
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There'd be no poor if the Public Service wasn't so top heavy with high salary useless !
Posted by individual, Friday, 14 May 2021 11:05:15 AM
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Agree with most of this, David. And both major parties are complicit in this game, whether it be tax breaks for folk who already receive huge tax treatment, advantages.

Or a cohort of wealthy mums shouted free child care paid for by the less well off, in some crackpot shameless scheme, simply to buy votes.

Here's the thing, union membership is just around 20% of the workforce, presided over by officials elected by that cohort, with a secret ballot.

Who rarely get a real say in candidate preselection.

Then it's these same candidates whose views prevail at the annual party meetings, which then decide party policy and direction?

Meaning, a small minority gets to decide policy and direction. And that nuclear power is not party policy And deletive expletive what the people want!

Let alone rights the new robber barons/ paper shuffling profit demanding middlemen are accorded.

Welfare paid for with taxpayers' money must be means-tested at all levels so it goes to the needy not the greedy

We need real tax reform that shares the burden between those with a capacity to pay a fair and equitable share.

And an energy policy that eliminates all the passengers it is asked to carry/ price gouging And as a fit for purpose amenity, massively turbocharges an increasingly automated economy that needs fewer and fewer employees/income-earning taxpayers!

Plus much smaller government as a rationalized government that eliminates an entirely unneeded middle tier.

This surely requires a shift to cooperative capitalism and taxing profits/income, not people, per see.

And doable with an unavoidable flat tax of just 15% levied on the aforementioned, above a generous tax-free threshold!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 14 May 2021 11:21:13 AM
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With the right energy/taxation policy and in a paradigm of cooperative capitalism, locally produced electric cars could be produced for less than 15,00 AUD! And similarly, trucks, buses, trams, trains and tractors, etc.

As for range limitations, overcome with a cling wrap thin layer of electrified, super-strong superconductor, graphene, highway/tram track underlay, and vehicles fitted with an underbelly electric magnetic induction plate that then allows continuous charging on the go!

All the above just requires the stroke of an actually elected official's pen! And there must be primary preselection and or, optional prefernncing if only to eliminate the above mentioned drones and unelected swill/shite for brains, from the decision-making process, which may at times, involve trillions of taxpayer dollars!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 14 May 2021 11:46:14 AM
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