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If God is dead, why do we miss Him so? : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 4/5/2021

The obstacles we have placed in the path are to do with a reliance on radical scepticism and hence the refusal to take anything on faith. We are spiritually risk averse.

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Yuyutsu writes P3: "It was the author, not me...." then I acknowledge this and add my own objections in the forlorn hope that the true author can overcome his timidity (I will limit myself to this attribution for the nonce) and defend himself. If he has failed to recognise by now that derogation and lies about those who disagree with him will continue to attract my moderate criticism then objections will follow as night follows day ad nauseam and ad infinitum while I can still gaze in awe at the natural world and experience the joy of the numinous.
If extolling his cerebral affliction cannot be done without said derogation and lies then his faith is worthy of no consideation from me.

You write: "But well, what can I say for someone who can (and likes to) write, but cannot read, not even names or quote-signs (")?
It's obvious that you can have nothing to say when you falsely accuse me of failing to use inverted commas at appropriate junctures. Kindly demonstrate this by pointing to it in my post. If you cannot then I can only offer sympathy for your dislexia and, management understanding and permitting, I will take up using double the space when responding to you. While you're in the mood perhaps too you might show me what names I cannot read. I don't recall using any names except yours, that arouses no nervousness in me whatsoever. (242) cont….
Posted by Pogi, Monday, 10 May 2021 6:32:37 AM
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Cont….You write: "To create heaven on earth is a materialistic fantasy, for one thing is for sure - there will come a time when this earth and universe, in which fools place their hopes, will be no more."

I confess, I am disgusted beyond measure by individuals who cannot wait for death by natural means but by an event that will consign all but your approved of faithful to oblivion. This is a dreadful attitude to the only life you will ever enjoy. That you cannot wait to cast it away for fantastical promises is stunning in its stupidity and cannot but be condemned by all rational. thinking people. That you can live and rejoice in wishing this horror for all humankind arouses a certain sympathy in me for you, that you depart safely on your prospective journey with all haste. But before you leave would you be so kind as to advise this wretched sinner a definite date? I really don't want to push my luck but would I need to bring my golf clubs? Or is everything....you know.

"Why, all the Saints and Sages who discuss'd
Of the Two Worlds so learnedly, are thrust
Like foolish Prophets forth; their Words to Scorn
Are scattered, and their Mouths are stopt with Dust." (215) Fin
Posted by Pogi, Monday, 10 May 2021 6:34:13 AM
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My attribution of the quatrain that concluded my last post was a function of OLO rules. This was overlooked by me when I was posting and therefore the blame is mine and I apologise.

It is the XXV stanza of the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam, poet, mathematician and astronomer of Naishapur.
Posted by Pogi, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 2:54:15 AM
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Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 10 May 2021 2:04:52 AM.
Yuyutsu writes and accuses: "But well, what can I say for someone who can (and likes to) write, but cannot read, not even names or quote-signs (")? perhaps the young generation finds it fashionable to consider this "progress"..
I am accused of
(a) being unable to read....
(b) not recognising names....
(c) being of a "young generation" by implication.
(d) thinking that ignorance, inelegance and lack of erudition is some kind of progress.
I asked him to substantiate his allegations by specific references to my posts where such faults lie in abundance to the extent that the descriptives of "liar" and "coward" will not stick to his character.
He has resiled from the obligation that his behaviour imposes and thus has his character's stickiness increased.
Yuyutsu offers these pearls of wisdom:
" “What is the greatest wonder in the world?
That, every single day, people die,
Yet the living think they are immortal.”
― Krishna-Dwaipayana Vyasa, Mahabharata
This sooth-merchant states the obvious with a delve into the mock-heroic that he knows will impress the gullible. He's telling his followers the "truth" essential to all religions....that they were created vulnerable to error and sinful ways but it's still their own fault!
This pseudo-guru advises us that this quaint little puzzlement that infests his frail and feeble mind is a quake that rocks the very foundations of the Universe!
With all the wisdom that living in a cave for 100 years imparts through a diet of air, water, meditation and the odd louse for bulk, he berates the faithful in their striving for a thread of happiness in their lives, for not living in longing for the after-life. The sentiment is there in the Doberman vicar who spoke of Latin America's longing before the Spanish conquests, for the coming of the annointed one.
K-DV, condemns the faithful for not living every moment of every day in a lachrymose pleading for immortality after death and that joy, happiness, inner satisfaction. are distractions from the main game.
Where have we encoutered this drivel before?
Posted by Pogi, Friday, 21 May 2021 1:30:51 AM
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Dear Pogi,

You are still abusive and ignorant, but I am glad that you learned to spell my name correctly.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Saturday, 22 May 2021 11:46:30 PM
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You are still abusive and ignorant, but I am glad that you learned to spell my name correctly.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Saturday, 22 May 2021 11:46:30 PM

The misspelling of your name was obviously a typographical error. It doesn't surprise me though that you throw unfounded accusations instead of dealing with the substantive issues that are the basis of your post dated Monday, 10 May 2021 2:04:52 AM.

You display a gross timidity when placed in a position of being required to defend your ratbaggery. That you and Peter Sellick should assume that a sacred respect for religious drivel should guide an interlocutor's criticism reveals an inability or disinclination to defend faith as a basis of truth. Such irrationality and lack of courage deserves no respect and especially does this apply when you attach endless derogation and lies to the tenets of non-belief and attach unpleasant epithets to the non-believer/non-faithful.

You and Sellick are the abusive and ignorant when you think your accusations against your opponents are immutable holy writ that must, MUST, be accorded respect at all time and under all circumstances.

If you cannot defend your faith adequately on its own merits and advantages, then you should neither seek nor expect the obsequious help of your opponents to do so. Do you quake in fear of such a prospect? If you refuse to show respect for the convictions of others then you are not entitled to receive it. It’s as simple as that. It’s not quantum physics. And, strange to relate, such observance applies across the whole swathe of human behavior. Only religious faith insists on being the exception.
Your resort to petty and diversionary points will avail you of nought except as a revelation that religious faith, left to its own devices, is not susceptible of rational and reasonable defense. But that is a fault that you and your brethren must deal with.
The best point in time, when you’re beating your head against a brick wall, is when you stop to regain your senses. (339)
Posted by Pogi, Sunday, 23 May 2021 6:05:35 AM
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