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The Forum > Article Comments > One Toowoomba woman’s response to the Australia-wide #march4justice > Comments

One Toowoomba woman’s response to the Australia-wide #march4justice : Comments

By Shirley Owen, published 15/4/2021

Women have striven to assert their right to equity, but it was not until the late nineteenth century that real progress started to take place. Today we are at another watershed moment in our nation's political history.

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"In the same way that critical race theory has turned our children into racists, continuous talk of gender makes decent men accidental misogynists (female writer and commentator, Alexandra Marshall. "Women are dangerous", Spectator 7/4/21).

"Without sex and race, loser wannabes would never get their 5 minutes of fame" (Anon).
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 15 April 2021 11:13:17 AM
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Niki Savva (The Australian) “There was a moment a couple of weeks ago when even Scott Morrison’s Labor opponents felt sorry for him. It was the day he declared Marise Payne was the ‘prime minister for women’. Poor bugger, they thought, can’t take a trick. It was the latest in a long string of gaffes by Morrison, each one showing despite the fact he is the son of one, the husband of another and the ­father of two, he was struggling to work out how to talk to or about women.”

Pete Comment

Marise Payne, Minister for Women, is a meek little thing, who doesn't like making speeches. But she's an unquestioning follower of ScoMo - that's the main thing it seems.

Has anyone heard from Marise Payne since ScoMo made her "Minister for Women" 2 weeks ago?

Were there any of the strident speeches from her about all ScoMo's women problems including the wrongly sacked Australia Post CEO?

I haven't heard Marise make a notable national speech, or heard her kick arse in a Cabinet still dominated by Scottie's Band of Blokey Brothers.

Just by appointing a Minister for Women, ScoMo thought he had quickly fixed the concerns of 51% of Australia's population.

Should Scottie have kept on the excellent Foreign Minister Julie Bishop AND made her Minister for Women http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Bishop

Or was Julie too much of a political threat: a leader, with her own base, her own mind and prepared to speak words not cleared by ScoMo?!
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 15 April 2021 11:40:23 AM
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I commend Shirley on her article. It takes courage to speak up and I think that Shirley has taken a stand which many men and women will support. My family lived in Toowoomba for 14 years; we only moved to Brisbane three years ago as our children found work in Brisbane, as there was insufficient opportunities in Toowoomba for our three girls.

All strength to your cause, Shirley!
Posted by Cyclone, Thursday, 15 April 2021 11:48:49 AM
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Shirley spends some time complaining about porn. Perhaps she doesn't realise that the majority of nude photos are of silly little very average girls, posting nude photos, often selfies of themselves on free sites. I can only assume this is average girls, non lefty feminists, wanting to feel sexy.

Then education. Surely even someone of average intelligence would have noticed that education standards started slipping as more women got into teaching. Then fell off a cliff when the feminists got control of the syllabus, & then the whole system. They still have subjects called math & physics. but they had to remove all the hard stuff. How else would the girls out score the boys.

I guess she has also failed to notice the majority of kids costing tax payers a fortune in universities are girls studying womens studies or some such guff, but will still qualify them for a high paying job in the bureaucracy.

Then how could she have failed to notice the catastrophe that Queensland has become, since the girls club got into office. Queensland is now ruled by the feely feely principle. we don't have cost value analysis, but feel good reactions, god help us.

Then she goes crook that another has been added to the national cabinet. Guess she wasn't a radical ratbag feminist, so doesn't get the nod of approval from Shirley.

I wonder if Shirl would care to comment about the shellacking men get from the Family Court? I guess not.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 15 April 2021 2:17:44 PM
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Show me a girl that does not scam and scheme for advantage.

Go for it Shirl, but you’ll find all blokes don’t roll over for it like the porn Queens do.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 15 April 2021 2:50:46 PM
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When I was a schoolboy there were no porn movies available just a few
nude photos and naughty magazines.
I have never seen one of those internet porn sites but as an adult
I can imagine some of what is on there.
It would be harmful for young boys to see this stuff and think it was
normal activity and something to copy.
The web porn sites should be treated the same way as terrorist sites.
There is already a law against it all so it should be easy to find them.

As far as women in general the idea of equality is natural enough and
has been largely implemented. However the noisy pushers never seem to
take account that they as women are different to men.
They have different interests, especially once they have children.
Anyone that says they are not different has rocks for brains.
That is the nature of things and anyone who pushes against nature is
doomed to failure. I can tell you anyone who argues against that has
never been married to one.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 15 April 2021 4:29:00 PM
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Shirley
So you're sayimg females are inferior to males. That's what you're saying.
Posted by Cumberland, Thursday, 15 April 2021 5:05:52 PM
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I don't know how much harm it does to the boys Bazz, but I reckon it is doing a fair bit of harm to the girls. My eldest, now a mother of teen agers tells me that, many girls now thinks it is normal to send naked selfies to their boy friends.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 15 April 2021 11:49:02 PM
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This whole thing seems overblown... and nutty.
I want to remind you that it's 2021 - not 1955.

I reckon a large percentage of these 'seemingly damaged' women who have it in for men, were probably the first ones to go out get drunk and hook up with some guy when they were young and pretty.

Now that they're not, or because they have regrets in their lives they attribute to men (when truthfully it was probably their own choice at the time) -they want to lay out every grievance any man ever did against them out like a weird victim impact statement.
I don't get really get it.

- And I see a disconnect from reality here:

Ban Porn from Toowoomba?
What's the plan exactly?
Block porn sites ONLY in Toowoomba, ban 'males and females sending nudes of themselves', so block Facebook Instagram Snapchat etc. too?
(Yes that's what the younger generation raised with technology, camera phones with internet actually do now)

Don't you know there's messenger apps where the content AUTOMATICALLY deletes a set amount after the content is viewed?
What are you going to ban social media platforms?
Ban Google and Apple and their app stores in Australia?

Maybe put camera's in everyone's bedrooms and loungerooms?

FYI, They're a very conservative city Toowoomba, but they must like sex because every family has about 7 or 8 kids.

'Make sure people under 18 don't view porn sites';
- How are you going to achieve this exactly, realistically?
What do you think the people at the council and in government don't watch porn?
What should people provide photo identification to the porn website before being allowed to view content?
How do you think that's going to turn out?

As long as porn sites aren't showing any illegal or non-consenting behavior what does it matter?

And what if your girlfriend LIKES to get drunk, and have wild sex like an energizer battery
- Including having their butt smacked, hair pulled and other sordid things that go beyond conservative vanilla-sex?
- And why is it even anyone else's business anyhow?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 17 April 2021 11:51:00 PM
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Why is it anyone else's busienss anyway?

Because the author believes that women are inferior and like children incapable of responsibility for their own choices, and so they need the patriarchal state to step in and make laws to protect them.
Posted by Cumberland, Monday, 19 April 2021 12:40:56 AM
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Shirley makes a reasonable point, and its a fact pornographic exploitation does have an influence in the subjugation of women, but its certainly not the be all and end all of the problem.

"Perhaps she doesn't realise that the majority of nude photos are of silly little very average girls, posting nude photos, often selfies of themselves on free sites. I can only assume this is average girls, non lefty feminists, wanting to feel sexy." Well Hassy just lock yourself in your tool shed and double check if that's still the case. How do you know that?
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 19 April 2021 5:45:44 AM
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