SR, what's your real name? The fact is that Sweden did no worse than their neighbours in deaths but infinitely better economically! Thats a fact but you prefer abuse. I cannot be bothered with you, you pompous, overblown, sniveling coward who hides his name!

Dear JBowyer,

This is what I put to Hasbeen on another thread.

Quote

Quarter 2 GDP

Sweden -8.0%
Denmark -7.1%
Norway -4.3%
Finland -3.9%

Sweden got hammered the worse with the biggest contraction.

Quarter 3 recovery figures

Denmark +5.2%
Sweden +4.9%
Norway +4.6%
Finland +3.3%

http://tradingeconomics.com/sweden/gdp-growth

So the cumulative positions over the 2 quarters are as follows;

Norway 100.1%
Finland 99.2%
Denmark 97.7%
Sweden 95.5%

End quote.

You were involved in that thread yet you choose to come out with the absolutely false statement, contrary to all the evidence, that “The fact is that Sweden did no worse than their neighbours in deaths but infinitely better economically!”

No it absolutely and demonstrably did not as shown above.

Now the latest 4th quarter 2020 figures are in and Sweden was the only Scandinavian country to go backwards.

Norway 0.6%
Finland 0.4%
Denmark 0.6%
Sweden -0.2%
http://tradingeconomics.com/sweden/gdp-growth

Further these are the death figures per 100,000 of each.

Norway 11.6%
Finland 13.8%
Denmark 40.8%
Sweden 127.8%
http://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

You sir are so utterly divorced from the truth you are certifiable. Go get some help.

And please don't sook up. You summoned me with “Where is the idiot who hides his name and calls himself Steel Redux?” so I came and torched you once again. That is masochism on your behalf. We must do it again some time.

Steele, your most recent post quotes ‘Worldometer’.

I provide the following information taken from their website: “ Worldometer is run by an international team of developers, researchers, and volunteers with the goal of making world statistics available in a thought-provoking and time relevant format to a wide audience around the world. It is published by a small and independent digital media company based in the United States.”

Now I know it also claims a load of other glowing material about its independence and high standing in society, but please don’t take their results as accurate.

Look where they source their data from, it clearly demonstrates bias and fits in with the promoted mantra being peddled by the very governments and organisations who wish to see further totalitarian goals achieved. I guess I will now be labelled as your new conspiracy theorist.
Galen

Dear Galen,

You write:

"Look where they source their data from, it clearly demonstrates bias and fits in with the promoted mantra being peddled by the very governments and organisations who wish to see further totalitarian goals achieved."

No it doesn't at all so why say it? They take official government reports. Are you really trying to make the case that they and the Swedish government have inflated the figures or that the other Scandinavian countries have deflated theirs? That is bonkers.

Mate these are not third world countries. You really need to stop drinking the Koolaid my friend else it will end in tears and shame.

A small edit.

The figures I provided for Covid deaths per 100,000 of population should of course be without the percentage sign.

Norway 11.6
Finland 13.8
Denmark 40.8
Sweden 127.8

There is simply no correlation between mortality outcomes and lockdown-type policies. This has been confirmed by several scientific papers, but you can see it here: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/government-response-stringency-index-vs-biweekly-change-in-confirmed-covid-19-cases?time=latest

Afghanistan, Mauritius and Yemen are clearly outliers, the others are all distributed evenly across the upper part of the chart from left to right.