To paul1405

Nice bit of red herring tossing Paul, but you can't keep me away from discussing the central issue that you need to keep me away from.

Everybody, including puffed up, narcissistic, trendy lefties, who have a compulsive need to think that they are morally superior to everybody else, identifies groups of people they don't like. The dislike can be based upon a multitude of things, their appearance, their educational attainments, their race, their generation, their culture, their nationality, their political opinions, even the vehicles they drive. Once identified, the outgroup is always given a disparaging name.

Examples are niggger, cracker, bogan, deplorable, shark bait, clubbers, krauts, sluts, poofters, yanks, bikies, banana benders, wetbacks, white van drivers, dune coons, and names too numerous to mention.

Everybody does it, and you and your lefty friends are no exception, however much you strut and preen and pretend that you are different.

Everybody prejudges the outgroups they do not like and attributes negative characteristics to them as a stereotype. Most people can and do understand that within the outgroup, there are exceptions to the stereotype and most people can concede that there may be members of the outgroup they respect and like.

But everybody still condemns the outgroup as a group. Your irrational and illogical position is that you think that when your opponents do it to the groups you either like, or think that you are the protector of, it is utterly reprehensible. But when you do it to the groups of people that you don't like, it is perfectly reasonable.

That is your double standard. That is the contradiction in your ideology.

The oddest thing about it is that you are unable to even see the contradiction. You have been brainwashed for so long to think that your opponents are all disgusting and that your own ingroup is the font of all that is good and holy, that the self evident contradiction goes WHOOSH, right over your head.

I think that the penny is starting to drop and you do not want to go there. Hence the red herring tossing.

Hi LEGO,

You can't be all bad, you finally got me to laugh, something both Adolf and Heinrich failed miserably to do. I was reading your above list of undesirables, at the end was DUNE COONS, what on earth is a Dune Coon? Please tell me so I can decide if I should hate them or not. There is no group that I hate, with the possible exception of the St George footy team when they are playing my beloved Bunnies!

Was the question about naming a loveable Aussie nut job from the far right too hard? Seriously, the below link is a bit old, but it sums up the situation we find ourselves in today rather well.

http://the-southern-cross.com/dealing-with-right-wing-nut-jobs/

Paul,

A poll of Muslims in the UK (mostly born in the UK) indicated that 52% felt that homosexuality should be illegal. A similar poll was done in France that indicated that a large No favoured the death penalty for homosexuality.

Pauliar,

The communists were also deeply racist, Lenin happily murdered about 1m Kulaks, and the Jews were subjected to persecution.

SM,

Kulaks - the class of prosperous landowners and 'rich peasants'. How is that any sort of ethnic group or 'race' ?

Yes, Lenin used their murders as a short-cut to divvying out land to poorer peasants, to keep them on-side. More than likely, the more prosperous peasants and landowners were probably the most innovative, forward-looking and technologically-advanced of the rural classes. So in a sense, Lenin beheaded that entire, vital sector of the economy.

Hence the chronic famines then and later.

Joe

Y,

The Kulaks were Ukrainian peasants that had been essentially freed and allowed to receive the rewards of their own labour and thus became "rich" i.e. had disposable income made them the enemy of the people because they produced more than collectives and wouldn't give it away for free. That the Russians considered them inferior didn't help either.

However, since the Soviet socialists had no qualms in murdering millions of their own, they could be considered equal opportunity murderers.