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Here’s to a politics that faces up to the facts : Comments
By Brendon O'Connor, published 25/1/2021In Joe Biden’s inaugural address a central aspiration was for the re-establishment of
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Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 25 January 2021 9:22:24 AM
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Spare me the BS!
Yes, Trump was defeated in a free and fair election! But the corporations remain as does their control of most political outcomes and representation! And Joe is going to jump whenever these puppet masters jerk his string! And allow just enough superficial change to keep the natives from getting too restless? The filibuster will remain as will voter suppression and republican gerrymanders? Yes, Joe will get a few dollars out the door? But bold reform and an energy superpower? Seems as if Joe has borrowed the ideas of others who will not even get the credit, let alone deserved financial reward! But then the robber baron is not a new concept in the USA! Nor purloining the intellectual acumen/ideas of others? Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned. Sure thing Joe, say ten hail marys and one Our Father and it's all history? I'm sure the corporations are looking forward to working with you and seeing how much the market will bear? Yes sure, a little sugar now will help make our hugely overpriced medicine, etc-etc, go down! Politics facing up to facts!? Ho, ho, ha, ha, he, he, oh my aching ribs! It's clinically incapable! Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Monday, 25 January 2021 11:05:59 AM
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"One of the clichés of the American-Australian relationship is that it has bi-partisan support no matter what party is in power in America or Australia".
Yes. It's not just a cliche, it is naive, and PM Morrison has has naively parrotted it off several times since the US election. The relationship will be the same with Beijing Biden? Pull the other one AdMan. If we concentrate just on the change in leadership, Morrison and Biden have nothing in common. For all his faults, Morrison is not a left-wing crank or away with the fairies like the other bloke is. "These are commitments that are strongly in Australia’s national interest to be in unison with". No. Can't agree with that one. And, as soon as Harris takes over, it will be good night America. Posted by ttbn, Monday, 25 January 2021 11:14:30 AM
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Sadly in Biden gaining the Presidency they have a politician whose abilities and loyalties are not sufficient for the task He immediately signed 72 executive orders completely overturning many policies that were for the good of the USA He cancelled Trump's efforts to root out Chinese investors from being able to buy into American power companies He has not shown the ability to face up to the facts that left wing activists and Antifa were serious domestic threats Alas for poor America it is in for a hard 4 years
Posted by Truth Seeker, Monday, 25 January 2021 2:32:30 PM
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PeterC What a rubbish article. God help America and the rest of the world because facts were not faced while the fraudsters, socialists, marxists, communists, main stream media and Democrats were very wrongly awarded the Presidency with Biden and Harris both - amongst others - already in China’s pocket
Posted by PeterC, Monday, 25 January 2021 4:44:02 PM
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It is good to see the good ole Trump supporters come out into the open, pushing the same ole lies that Donald did for 4 years.
Fabrication of the truth really does not change the FACTS. Whatever side of the fence you sit on, the reality is that the change in America can only be good for the world in changing the tack on climate change policies. The world now has a chance of clearing the air and seas of pollution; by doing something positive, rather than continuing to the reverse, which was killing this planet, Earth Posted by Cyclone, Monday, 25 January 2021 5:06:35 PM
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Do people in mines and factories and building sites cry about climate change or is it only people in Universities who never work in such fields that complain about this?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 25 January 2021 5:13:30 PM
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Armchair Critic,
No use crying now because it is too late to fix the problem. Posted by Mr Opinion, Monday, 25 January 2021 5:29:44 PM
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Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 25 January 2021 5:38:49 PM
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Armchair Critic,
People who don't have to rely on their merits to get through life, courtesy of ordinary Tax payers, will never comprehend the difference between idealism & reality ! Progressive political parties rely on them as their backbone ! Posted by individual, Monday, 25 January 2021 6:19:22 PM
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BIDEN PREDICTS US SENATE UNLIKELY TO IMPEACH TRUMP
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/us-politics-live-updates-trump-impeachment-trial/13089404 on 26 Jan reports: "Joe Biden says he believes there aren't enough Republicans to convict Donald Trump [Biden] has spoken to CNN and said that while he believes the trial "has to happen" he doesn't think it will end in the conviction of Donald Trump." COMMENT It requires 2/3rds of Senators present to Impeach Trump. Only then can a later vote prevent Trump running for President again. Without a 2/3rds Senate Vote TRUMP CAN CLAIM VICTORY OVER THE BIDEN GOVERNMENT Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 11:24:52 AM
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Banners do not identify a mob marching under it with covered faces.
This mob clearly took some lessons from the attack on capital hill and have used that lesson to some advantage! Pete, they could have just as easily been right-wing extremists, i.e., Trump's patriots? Hiding under a banner and covered faces? Clearly, the left and the BLM movement are best served by a Biden Presidency! Therefore, those marching under "that banner" were something else/want something else? Dare I suggest neo-Nazi fascists? And dare I suggest, more of the same, ramped up and up, until Trump is impeached and convicted alongside his cohort of Sidious co-conspirators and criminal cabal? Let's get rid of the filibuster so impeachment can proceed rather than be blocked by a minority of, die in a ditch first, neo-Nazi sympathising Senators? Only then, can work on healing a bitterly divided nation proceed! Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 26 January 2021 12:22:08 PM
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Biden has clearly chucked in the towel before any attempt to land a blow on Trump's Fanatics! Just too dam weak to take on Trump or the vocal minority of hardline fanatics who would destroy democracy!
As their only solution to getting rid of corporate control in today's America? USA, USA, USA? Eh? While words matter, action speaks far louder! Reaching across the aisle is not action, it's compromise and capitulation to corporate America! And no way to heal a bitterly divided nation! Borrowing the ideas of others may assist a Corporate America serving recovery? And suppress some of the unreleased pent up anger, ticking away like a time bomb, in the betrayed and deeply divided states of America? JFK come back, the world and America needs your reincarnation/implacable resolve and strength now! Not more bah humbug and weak-kneed Corporate serving Biden? Let's be patient for four more years. Then put an epitagh under the Biden, he reached across the aisle, Presidency War hero, JFK was the only President in living memory to Dress down several Corporate Chiefs as if they were unpatriotic/naughty, naughty schoolboys! As the whole world watched! It's not what your country can do for you! It's what you can do for your country! Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 26 January 2021 1:02:53 PM
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Hi Alan B.
If you are referring to my first comment of Monday, 25 January 2021 9:22:24 AM, ie. "AMERICAN EXTREME LEFT RIOTING AGAINST BIDEN ALREADY at http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-inauguration-portland-prote-idUSKBN29Q0H9 Portland Oregon has an established reputation of actual Extreme Left protests see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Portland,_Oregon#Background below: pointing to " Antifa, the loose coalition of self-described anti-fascist activists, have had years of conflict with law enforcement." at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Portland,_Oregon#Organizers below: "Rose City Justice[18] and the Albina Ministerial Alliance.[19] The Facebook and Twitter accounts associated with the Pacific Northwest Youth Liberation Front" ______________ Yes, I'm hoping Trump gets impeached at the more significant Senate level. But even Biden sees it as a distraction from Biden's more pressing Executive Actions eg. against Covid. Biden must also assess how a defeat of Impeachment at Senate level will raise Trump's already overblown image. Pete Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 1:05:10 PM
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Pete, ever occur to you that the destination/location was chosen to deflect blame by a banner-waving mob with covered faces? And so convenient!
I'd swallow all that, with a heaping helping of gullible salt! And not just a grain! They'll have to do better than that to convince me they were a left-wing mob! I mean, they could have been a vanguard of invading Martians? After all, at least half a dozen had their head antennas fully extended? What's next? That the crowd that attacked Capital hill and wanted to gas the entire Government while trapped in the tunnels were also left-wing extremists? Nice try! But you need to do much better next time! Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 26 January 2021 11:18:53 PM
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Here's a curly one http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-inauguration-portland-prote-idUSKBN29Q0H9 of JANUARY 21, 2021
"(Reuters) - Anti-government and anti-fascist protesters in Portland and Seattle vandalized a Democratic Party office and other buildings and scuffled with police on Wednesday, protesting against President Joe Biden’s inauguration.
People dressed in black and with their faces covered broke windows and the glass door at the Democratic Party of Oregon business office in Portland, spray-painting an anarchist symbol over the party sign, video posted on social media showed.
“We don’t want Biden. We want revenge for police murders, imperialist wars, and fascist massacres,” read a banner they marched under."