Many people have seen massive increases in the cost of power and water and living expenses. Most people can see the population driven shortages in their lives.

Loudmouth said 'the world produces enough' may not be supported by the majority given the increases in prices (including land housing prices) the decreases in jobs including job security- most just don't know what to do about it- and they are afraid- as FDR said the only fear is fear itself- the majority can't hold the authorities accountable- that horse has bolted- it needs to form new political parties support new candidates and replace the system.

Loudmouth's Socialism Blank Slate won't fix the world. Neither will global free trade. We must reward those nations and communities that are responsible at the different levels of the hierarchy and penalise those that aren't.

Nations need to take responsibility for their populations we should have trade restrictions on those that don't- and don't take care of their workers- there is a hierarchy of nations and their treatment of workers- trade with low quality IR nations can undermine workers rights and undermine the global order.

We must look to the way things were run in our grandparents time- and adopt some of their principles- a more traditional form of living- Traditional communities are the ones behaving responsibly vs population- most of us have all the freedom we want- we have broad freedom within wide constraints- despite the 'dog whistling' of the left for still greater 'freedom' for example for the LGBTI community- which most people don't identify with- and can be a burden on productivity and the community.

Probability not possibility.
The world needs more responsibility and it needs to focus more on the happiness of the many (probability) rather than the happiness of the few (possibility).

Decreasing world population 'will' increase the relative amount of resources- reducing hardship and suffering.

Loudmouth said 'the world produces enough'- someone once said 'life wasn't meant to be easy'- many know from what they see- we can do much better.

'Immortality is yours- take it'

CM,

Not sure how you leap to Socialism - I don't think Socialism, at least Marxist or Leninist Socialism - can 'fix the world'. It degenerates into fascism or something like it within a very short time, it comes to depend on its executioners to drive its unwilling producers: it certainly did in Russia, China, Cuba, perhaps Venezuela. It has nothing to offer the world except by way of bad example.

And one signature of such 'socialism' is that production usually collapses, and that peasants have to be kept on the land regardless of inevitable famines.

So any link between food production and socialism is pretty tenuous, if not completely counter-intuitive.

If anything, it will be capitalism which drives increases in production, since it endlessly seeks opportunity. And usually finds it eventually.

Joe

Foul-Mouth,

I just read your explanation of socialism and fascism.

I have never thought of them in those terms.

And as a sociologist I doubt if I ever will.

Misop,

Then you need to go back to your Weber and Tawney, don't you ?

Joe

The arty-farty young climate change protesters who can only complain and blame, on one hand

and the older, but boring, technologists who can solve the problem...that the young don't listen to.

I think that nobody can rationally deny that the
planet has a finite amount of resources or that
it can tolerate only a limited amount of pollution.
Therefore if world population continues to grow rapidly
and if pollution and resource depletion continues at an
increasing rate, sweeping social changes await us.

The time for the blame game should be long past.
The time for action is now!
Solutions not blaming are needed.