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COVID-19 gold standard again : Comments

By Arthur Dent, published 21/12/2020

This weekly 'risk management' lottery was held up as a shining example that contact tracing could make lockdown unnecessary.

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Individual, isn't it amazing how few people can see the elephant in the room. Perhaps it is too early yet but at a market where I had a stall last Saturday, I remarked to a few people how few pregnant women were walking around yet. These lockdowns must be doing a lot to exacerbate the population problem. The vaccine should have a contraceptive built into them to do something to help bring our populations down to some manageable level.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Monday, 21 December 2020 2:04:07 PM
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Is Alan brilliant, or a total twit.

No one on earth could have found any right wing media in Oz, but he claims to have done it.

Cone on Alan, let us know where to find it, some have been looking & hoping for a few decades, unrewarded.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 21 December 2020 3:32:55 PM
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Good article.

Just one comment, Arthur: South Australia did not "learn" from Victoria's experience, but was ready to do what it had to do all along.

One thing this plague shows us, is that the commonwealth is only an encumberment, irrelevant at real times of trial when only the individual states do matter. Vaccines are already available, but Morrison and his commonwealth-bureaucracy denies us this long-awaited relief.

It is time to get rid of the commonwealth: all this continent really needs together is a strong common army to defend our shores from China, but this can also be achieved with a confederation or with a NATO-like defense pact between independent individual states. Perhaps also a common currency, but this also can be achieved like the Euro in Europe.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 21 December 2020 11:00:41 PM
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Hasbeen. You and your (come on) ilk cannot see a right-wing media, because not only do you never look to see these nutters as part of the political cohort you are welded to! But deny that they are part of a community of denialists you'll belong to! As in Fox news/the Murdoch press Peta Credilin and co? The KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremists?

The fact that this cohort is almost a mindless brainwashed moronic cohort (fruit-loop community) is the reason, I believe, science and proof escapes them completely!?

As it does the fellow traveller cohort which you, judged on your personality defects, includes/involves you. I mean you seem to take some issues as if it was always all about you and you have done so since I've become active on this site and acquainted with your ultra-right-wing views, i.e., madness?

You'll have a nice day now y'hear and remember to keep taking the meds, there's a good little ikle diddums.

P.S. I don't believe you actually believe the (flat earther) garbage you write? But feel need to attack me and the cooperative capitalism/Christian economics I advocate. Because of the idiotic ideological imperatives that control you (jerk your strings) and what's left of your minuscule mind?

And without any shadow of reason or actual proof. just slogans, labels and barely veiled abuse.

I stand by these advocated beliefs and point out to you, if you still have enough little grey cells to reason with, that it was cooperative capitalism almost exclusively that saw us as a post-war community enter into a period of unprecedented prosperity as the third wealthiest nation on the planet, but a debt-free creditor one at that. Deny those recorded facts if you can, genius!

And thank you for providing the space and reason to reiterate them, genius.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 22 December 2020 10:36:06 AM
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Yuyustu. Agree with you in part, but point out that, what divides us are state borders and state parliaments, nothing more! That without these anachronisms from the past, we'd be one nation and 70+ billions better off P.A. for the real reform!

70+ annual billions that could be ploughed into self-defence industries/affordable nuclear power and quite massive new job creation! To reiterate, we'd be one nation and 70+ billion P.A.better off for the real reform.

Moreover, utilising cooperative capitalism as a single undivided nation, we'd be able to weaponise the usual economic flow on factors that all but compel every single dollar in our economy to do the work of seven or more. And includes the aforementioned 70+ billions we'd liberate with aforementioned doable reform. Currently, just requires a referendum and a Federal government to finance and call for/legislate one!

During WW11, all state governments were suspended and their budget and roles handed to the federal war cabinet/Federal government! Which could have, given it had the power to do so at that time, completely abolished them and the roadblock state parliaments that seem to go from crisis to corruption-riddled crisis, to corruption-riddled crisis?

If we ever have to confront such an emergency ever again? Then the above must surely be, first cab off the rank!

Simply put, we just do not need yet another layer of intricate complexity as you seem to advocate! That'd be gridlock on steroids!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 22 December 2020 11:22:35 AM
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Dear Alan,

You are probably correct about those $70+Billions, but quality of life, in my view at least, cannot be measured in dollars and cents.

I favour neither capitalism nor nationalism, thus I am interested in neither more jobs nor in being one nation, but then of course, if these are your preferences then it is clear why the extra layer of complexity that you would like to get rid of, are the states. I on the other hand would rather be rid of the commonwealth.

Yes we have emergencies and fear calls for security in numbers, but they will eventually be over and life in general ought to be planned for quality during normal times.

It comes down to what we value. I do not want to be ordered around by people that live 1000's of kilometers away whom I will unlikely ever meet. I value simplicity, direct human relating and less dependence on technology - for these, the smaller the states the better.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 2:26:26 PM
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