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China to build $200 million fishery project on Australia’s doorstep : Comments

By Jeffrey Wall, published 16/12/2020

With Australia’s relationship with China under great pressure, a project that challenges our strategic national interest has been quietly endorsed by the Papua New Guinea government

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Foul-Mouth,

I think I would be numero uno on Xi's hit list, destined to spend the rest of my life in a Chinese concentration camp forced to pick fly sh!t out of pepper as part of my re-education program.

What's your prediction for the future Australia? I'm interested to hear how you think things will turn out.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Thursday, 31 December 2020 12:35:18 PM
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To Mr Opinion-

What you have said sounds reasonable.
Australia is probably not well defended from the south or from the west though Australia would put up very little resistance to a committed invasion from China.

To hold land it's necessary to use man power.

I remember in 'The Crown' series they discussed what would be required in terms of control of institutions for a British coup- it could be similar in Australia. From memory they said that it would require control of the Military, the Parliament, the Police, the Courts, the Crown.

I'm sure the Chinese are investigating multiple vectors not just the Indonesian one and not just military. Presumably the Chinese would probably need Indonesian help in passing large amounts of equipment through this path undetected- and they would need to offer something to the Indonesians.

Given the growth in Chinese military activity it seems it's no secret that military is likely to be "part" of their strategy- even if it's just used to intimidate with plausible deniability.

Sadly the globalists are likely to fall over themselves to avoid losing their investments probably until it's too late.

It's amusing to see China tying the business community up in knots (so they don't know what to do) in the same way that the business community has tied up governments and the community in knots. Sadly they will all be washed away ... like the movie 'Gone With The Wind'.

This is symptomatic of the things that can happen when institutions go to war against the population- history is littered with them.

I guess unlike the Hebrews before Israel the Chinese and the Indian's actually have their own homeland. Another difference with the Chinese and Indian's is that their homelands are large and their populations have grown dramatically and perhaps irresponsibly over the past seventy years. I wonder what sort of international displacement would happen to Australian people should they have their homeland taken.

This population dominance by Chinese and Indian's and soon African's would in fact reduce diversity in the world
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 31 December 2020 12:47:21 PM
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Some seem to want to conflate the Hebrew situation with the Chinese one or Indian ones- sometimes perhaps even the Hebrew diaspora when they see it to their advantage- we as British Australian's need to act in the best interest of the British Australian people- others of course will try to act in their interest and discredit our interest- British Australian's are a very generous people but we aren't fools- though some think we are.

Some people believe that we can/ should have a diverse world but not perhaps diverse countries.

Mr Opinion- said previously "all non-Australian Chinese should be removed from Australia"

Answer- Many believe that Australia's Education Industry doesn't really serve Australia. Chinese nationals and (those of Chinese extraction to a lesser extent) in Australia do seem to constitute a security risk to Australia. People do seem to favour those similar to themselves. The rallies at Australian universities supporting China have been concerning and illuminating- one in particular at the University of Queensland.

The Chinese government could potentially rally Chinese students in my view to use as a tool to execute a coup in Australia- there is dissent within China- but I'm not sure it would be enough- and China today is very different to China in 1989.

The role of the Equal Opportunity Commission is interesting in the context of cultural change. It seems that their role is to ensure that the immigrant revolution is not opposed by a counter revolution- though it seems that it is the right of the people to protest- this seems to be a contradiction between principles. A similar contradiction seems to exist in the US Declaration in it's principles 1. Government of the People and 2. religious freedom- when these principles conflict within the community through immigration etc.

Both of these seem to contain a source of subversive vulnerability within the community.
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 31 December 2020 12:49:33 PM
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I hope that Australian governments cultivate close links with all of the countries between here and China - Vietnam, Thailand, India, Indonesia, the Philippines, even Cambodia by the sound if it, Japan, Pakistan, Bangla Desh, and of course the Pacific nations including New Zealand.

Let's be clear. China is a totalitarian regime; the CCP is a tarted-up Mafia on a massive scale, with 100 million foot-soldiers and hangers-on, and the keys to a vast economy.

All states that claim to be Utopias degenerate very quickly into fascist regimes: Lenin's lasted only weeks before he was ordering the crushing of the workers on Kronstadt, and of the Narodniks. And it was down-hill all the way from there. If Lenin hadn't died in early 1924, he would have been Stalin.

So yes, all of our region is menaced by China. I hope that its plans for invasion of India and Japan and eventually Australia can be delayed or hindered, by five years, ten years, until its demographic problems drag it down - until it starts to get old before it gets too powerful, and hopefully until its minorities and non-Mandarin speakers can assert themselves, as the wonderful people of Hong Kong and the Tibetans and the Uighurs and others in Sinjiang have been doing.

One problem with that scenario is that warfare is becoming so much more technical than physical: pretty soon, older people in China will be just as able to operate weaponry as younger grunts. But live in hope.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Thursday, 31 December 2020 1:10:30 PM
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Canem Malum,

I think the Chinese will be able to swing Indonesia to its side.

The thing that the Javanese elites (who basically are Indonesia) desire more than anything is territory, especially to transmigrate the Javanese people to less populated regions (1) to relieve population pressure on Java and (2) to extend Javanese control other the rest of Indonesia.

I think China would offer the Javanese great swathes of land in the northwest of Australia in order to shore up Indonesian non-interference during the Chinese invasion of Australia.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Thursday, 31 December 2020 1:35:35 PM
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Kudos Loudmouth I surprisingly agreed with most of what you said in your last post. And recognition of the changes in military tech and a comment on the Mafia- wow.

John Locke commented on gang government- and how to stop it through liberalism- I think it still exists even within liberalism- and especially Communism- it will probably always exist- I don't think John Locke fixed humanity- and perhaps made it worse- but it took a few hundred years to see it.

Ironically perhaps the reason why China is acting aggressively is because of it's demographic problems and the rise of India- it sees now as it's one chance in history to gain global power. Very few give up power voluntarily.

China probably needs to take a leaf from Sun Tzu and realise that soft alliances are perhaps more important than dominance.

Don't get me wrong I don't want to see China destroyed by internal division either as this would start a whole new cycle of instability in world geo politics. But I think that the whole world would benefit from a decrease in population away from the urge to continuous growth- to take the pressure off. I would like to see more autonomous regions within China and India and others so long as sustainable population and other strategies are maintained.

Modern countries are now over reliant on the global system with it's growing malignancies- slowly countries need to decouple themselves to control their own destiny- when people feel that they are controlled by others it creates conflict.
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 31 December 2020 1:54:46 PM
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