Yuyutsu,

<<I personally do not hold that God exists, nor that God has any need to be glorified, yet I find glorifying God the most satisfying and meaningful pursuit.>>

You've left me confused. In another comment on another topic you stated: 'The ultimate truth is God, that there is nothing but God, that YOU ARE GOD and the world is your playground and you can do with it as you please, but OTHERS ARE ALSO GOD…' (Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 11:21:59 PM, http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=20021&page=0)

So is the ultimate truth God or are you an atheist in regard to God's existence? Based on your statements, it seems you have violated the law of non-contradiction.

Yuyutsu apparently is large enough to embrace contradictions.

Dear Spencer,

«So is the ultimate truth God or are you an atheist in regard to God's existence?»

Both!

The ultimate Truth is God.

and

I technically fall into the modern definition of "atheist" because my faith is in God, not in His existence.

In fact, I consider the belief in God's existence a form of heresy as that belief seems to shamefully lower God to the status of a thing, a mere object. Only things/objects can exist and all objects are limited too, but God is neither a thing nor limited in any way. Existence itself cannot be spoken of outside of God and being God's creation, how could one so foolishly include God within His own creation?!

Yuyutsu,

<<I technically fall into the modern definition of "atheist" because my faith is in God, not in His existence.>>

So, the 'God' you have faith in does not exist? Am I reading you correctly? Does your 'God' have any more essence than the tooth fairy?

<<The ultimate Truth is God.>>

This is the 'God' who has no existence but in your worldview that person provides 'ultimate Truth'.

It's impossible to have a rational discussion with you when you have faith in the non-existent God but still call it 'faith'.

Dear OzSpen,

Belief or disbelief in God is irrational since there is no evidence that God either does or does not exist. It seems an unreasonable requirement to ask that an irrational matter be rationally discussed. If something is true either there is evidence for its truth or its truth can be proved. I make the assumption that God does not exist. You make the assumption that God exists. Yuyutsu makes neither assumption. All three positions are not based on evidence. However, it is reasonable that a person assuming an entity exists provide evidence for such an assumption. Without evidence Yuyutsu’s position is the most reasonable one, and your assumption is the least reasonable.

I cannot believe in the God of the Bible since the God of the Bible seems improbable. Some believe Jesus is the Son of God. That may be so, but so is Satan and others if one accepts the following:
JOB 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

So Satan and Jesus are half brothers or whole brothers if there are no genes from Mary or some other woman. As with my sons there is sibling rivalry.

I see no reason why there shouldn’t be many virgins to produce other sons of God. However, an omnipotent God shouldn’t need a woman to produce sons. He could clone them. However, daughters are great also. Why not clone them?

(to the tune of Home on the Range)

Oh, give me a clone,
A clone of my own
With the Y chromosome turned to X
And then this clone, this clone of my own
Will be of the opposite sex.

https://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=10065 is an article you might enjoy. “God is a Human Invention” is its title, and I wrote it.

That invention appeals to the tribal nature of humanity. Ants have wars where they fight, die and kill for their ant hill. Humans do the same for their god.

david f,

<<Belief or disbelief in God is irrational since there is no evidence that God either does or does not exist. It seems an unreasonable requirement to ask that an irrational matter be rationally discussed.>>

That's your thunderous a priori presupposition. It's nothing more than your personal opinion. Assertions like this prove nothing.

Why don't we have a rational discussion (in another thread) for evidence of God's existence?