It is not surprising that years and years of Islamic terrorism seemed to have dampened interest in this matter.

Binoy Kampmark,
Can you provide a link to articles in which you expressed similar sentiments about terrorist attacks elsewhere ?

Hi Ttbn,

Sorry, I haven't kept count, but I just wonder if Tarrant's murders outnumber all of the Islamist murders in Australia and New Zealand put together ?

In the argument between Australia and New Zealand over where this mongrel should spend the rest of his life, has anybody resolved the issue by proposing the setting up a small jail-type facility in neutral territory, namely the Antarctic ?

Joe

If we have to think about the China virus when we go to the ballot boxes from now on, we should remember that Australia is currently being run by unelected health bureaucrats, not the people we did actually vote for last time.

Ttbn,

And thank Christ for that, rather than some puffed-up politician over-ruling every sensible suggestion of people who have been in the business all their lives.

A bit off-topic ? Antarctica ? What do you reckon ? Maybe a bit rough on any screws down there.

Joe

Sp, it's the health officials who're opening/closing borders ? I'm sure the Govts still have their hands at the economic controls because if it was the health officials we'd be broke by now if their system's history is anything to go by !
Just be glad the medicos are sensible people !

According to Tarrant's own manifest his favourite leader in the world was Xi Jinping. It won't stop the lying white supremist narrative of the media. When they can't report on fake crime like Smollett , Bubba Wallace or the Covington kid then they need to twist the story. Tarrant should really receive the death penalty but again the media prove to be the enemy of the people.

Joe,

I was thinking a bit further afield than New Zealand. Y'know, the World? The place where the co-religionists of Tarrant's victims have slaughtered thousands of people?

I'm not into killing for any reason, but I find it hard to sympathise with members of a religion that preaches death to everyone else. The lack of interest by all but the media and a couple of insincere, vote-hungry politicians, indicates that I'm not alone. Living by the sword and dying by it, and all that.

As for my misplaced post above, I've mentioned it in the correct area, if you want to have another go. There's no doubt that you would be happy with government from Bejiing. Rule by the unelected is all the go there.

This loony tune killed 50 human beings as they knelt to pray tried to kill over forty others without compunction or self-evident regret!

It was planned, ice cold and premeditated! And his calloused indifferent views are very far right?

If this insane crime doesn't justify the whole of life incarceration without parole? What would?

As for sending him back here, so his family can visit? Hell no! And no TV or radio or laptop or reading material! He should have nothing but his memories to comfort/entertain him on his way to hell?

Show him the mercy he reserved for others!

One notes that ttbn seems to think there was some kind of justice in his actions? Like two wrongs making a right? Kill the innocent for the perceived crimes of the guilty? Totally unacceptable and irrational mate!
Alan B.

Meh.
How many Christians are killed around the world in the name of Islam each year?

As mentioned above, the muted reaction.

"How many Christians are killed around the world in the name of Islam each year?" Who knows? If you have something you want to prove, you should try to find out and let us know.

It is known that Christians are the most persecuted people in the world. And they are not just persecuted by Muslims. Atheists, socialists, communists, ABC activists are all among their enemies, as are some OLO posters. Even in the West, where most of our freedoms and privileges are derived from Christianity, the threat is growing. Many learned commentators now regard the West to be in a post-Christian phase. Whatever Christianity is eventually replaced with might not be so benevolent and forgiving.

"It is known that Christians are the most persecuted people in the world."
Yeah, pretty much what I was eluding to.
Why the hostility ttbn?

What Tarrant did was a bad thing to do but the only real surprise was it happened in NZ. Many said that at the time.
There was going to be retaliation to the replacement but you wouldn't expect it there, for some reason.

Tarrant has got less than he deserved.
New Zealand wants to send him back here.
That is good we have the perfect place for him to live out his life.
Goulburn Super Mosque ! Full of Moslems banged up for murder, rape
terrorism and other criminal behavior.

In all the fuss no one has asked the question beyond the immediate
obvious factors why has this sort of action not been more common.
After all the terrorist attacks from the Munich games onward I do not
remember another similar case as Tarrants.

All this just after the five year anniversary of the attack on the
French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo !

There is no escaping that it all emerges from the religion of Islam.
They are complying with Allah's demands in his words revealed to
that genocidal Mohammad living the Saudi desert 1400 years ago.
I am just amazed that we have not had many Tarrants around the world.

For all you fascists,

It's wrong for Muslims to kill anybody for no particular reason. Or, of course, anybody to do that.

It's wrong to blame all Muslims, including small children, for the crimes of some of their co-religionists, just as it's wrong to blame all Christians for the crimes of any particular Christian, or to blame all atheists for the dreadful crimes of any particular atheist.

If someone commits a dreadful crime, or fifty crimes, then they and they alone should be held to account for that crime.

Ttbn, stop drooling at the thought of shooting young Muslim children.

Joe

so we can agree that all lives matter (ie black, white, yellow, the elderly , muslim, hindu, Christian, unborn). Thank God for a person's conscience unless it is of course seared by excusing any of the above.

Runner,

Yes indeed, all people's lives matter, as you so rightly say. ALL Black people, ALL white people. ALL Christians, ALL Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Shintoists, etc., and atheists.

And yes, the law should apply equally to all people who commit criminal offences against innocents. No ifs, no buts.

If an atheist murdered 51 people in cold blood, and wounded another fifty, then yes I would support him/her being incarcerated in the Antarctic or at, say, Oodnadatta, for the term of his/her natural life.

As an atheist, I've always admired the Prince of Peace. There is a great deal of universal goodness in most religious books.

Joe

Agree Joe, an individuals crime should be treated as exactly that, and individuals crime.
But when does that happen these days? Really?

A group always gets blamed.

With Tarrant gun owners across NZ who had nothing to do with it were made to lose for what he did. So it's too late to say broader significance shouldn't be applied to his actions.

It's wrong to blame all Muslims, including small children, for the crimes of some of their co-religionists
loudmouth2,
I don't think anyone does, what most observers are questioning is the cold-hard fact that no Muslims openly voice their objection to those who give their religion a bad name.
The day I hear of Muslims demonstrating against the calls of Islam to do away with all non-Muslims, I'll be out there fully supporting their cause.

The old argument that it is not all moslems is well out of date.
It is all moslems because Allah has called for all kufas to be killed
if they reject Islam. If someone says he rejects the verses that make
it clear that kufas must be killed then he is not a moslem.
There is no way around that.
That is why very few moslems condemn jihadi killings.
They cannot deny the Koran.

Bazz,
They're very much like the Left, they try to portray fact as not being fact & what is not fact as fact !

Dear Bazz,

You really need to put a bloody sock in it.

The continuous stream of hate filled bile you have repeatedly posted to this forum has on many occasions been inciting violence. Your repeated fear mongering, and stereotyping and calls to arms has been part of the coolaid this Australian drank from. I condemn you for what you have posted here and likely on other forums. Your hands are drenched in the blood of those peaceful worshipers, the men women and children who were victims of the kind of hatred you spew out here.

Your victim shaming is utterly reprehensible and your attempts to absolve yourself of any blame are despicable.

You really are a horrid little fellow.

Ttbn,

I apologise for my intemperate remark - I'm sure that you value the lives, and right to live, of Muslim children as highly as you value those of all children.

Joe

Joe and others with their head in the sand need to read some of the
text of the Koran. It is very explicit in Allah's message to the believers.
It is ISIS's justification for their mass slaughter.
It is Islam's justification for the killing of up to 8 million Hindus
in the 8th Century and the ethnic cleaning of the people of the Levant.
It has been the same story through all that time till now.
Some want to believe all would be loverly if only we buried our heads
further into the sand.
Just watch what is happening in Europe if you think Islam has reformed.
It cannot reform because it is blasphemy to change any word in the
Koran and is punished by death.
There are reformist groups but they are always under pressure.
In all cases, opposition can only be resolved by killing.
By all means don't take my word for it.
Just read it !

Dear Bazz,

We have known for a long while you are a rather sick puppy but look at what you are doing here. This is the topic;

An Australian terroist has "pleaded guilty to 51 charges of murder, 40 counts of attempted murder".

Yet you are using the platform not to condemn him in any fashion but rather to continue your rant against Muslims.

You are trying to create an atmosphere which in some way legitimises this Australian terrorist's actions, to make them excusable. I know in your heart you may well celebrate what he did, or at least be neutral on it. I can't change that. However I can call you out an your abhorrent lack of decency.

In all your posts on this thread you have not once indicated a single skerrick of sympathy for the victims.

Instead you came out with this putrid line;

"After all the terrorist attacks from the Munich games onward I do not remember another similar case as XXXXXs. All this just after the five year anniversary of the attack on the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo !"

So you have chosen to remove from your memory the killings by another rightwing Christian terrorist in Norway. He gunned down 77 mostly young people. In comparison the Charlie Hebdo attack saw 12 brutally slain.

You have a sick, selective, hate filled world view that is borderline reportable.

Take a bloody hard look at yourself mate.

Hear, hear, Steele, well said.

You suggest to Bazz "Take a bloody hard look at yourself mate." He would see what we all see, a far right hate filled bloody extremists! And the sad thing, is just as Brenton Tarrant is proud of what he is, Bazz is equally proud of what a disgusting hater he also is.

Just read my first post.
But you will not you are too hypocritical.
You can only select lines that you want.
Repeat what I said to do with Tarrant, but you never read that line did you !
You sound more like the ABC every day.

What an un-level slanging match !
The odd white terrorist vs a whole culture of 1.6 Billion followers who don't denounce terrorism ?
Show me a white religion's bible that openly advocates the annihilation of all who are not members !
Let's keep this idiotic to-ing & fro-ing free of hypocrisy !

Sorrrrrrrrrrry Bazz, I didn't realise what an old softy you really are. "Just read my first post." he say, so we did, and here it is;

"Tarrant has got less than he deserved. New Zealand wants to send him back here.That is good we have the perfect place for him to live out his life. Goulburn Super Mosque ! Full of Moslems banged up for murder, rape terrorism and other criminal behavior."

Note the sop about Tarrant, all of seven words, so meaningful, then its bore into the Muslims all designed to mitigate the actions of Tarrant.

Bazz you are full of it!