How rewarding it is to see Andrews squirming away in the peak southern hillbilly state.

No evidence yet, the Chinese are extending a helping hand towards him: So maybe its true, sucking up and crawling along to the oppressor, is not an assured remedy to more affliction from the bully. Ho ho.

Maybe Andrews could roll out Julia Gillard on a platform of gay rights and BLM podium.
The true meaning of "drone"!
And actually, was it not a BLM protest which totally ignored the pandemic necessity of crowdless streets, which kick started the dramatic decline in health outcomes for the other half of sensible Victorians not supportive of Andrews and his Chinese "lackies" Government?

Dan

If you want to rubbish Donald Trump, it's pretty stupid to mention the worst, most incompetent Australian politician ever - Daniel Andrews - in the same piece.

Ttbn,

I believe that Andrews has taken full responsibility for the renewed outbreak in Victoria.

Meanwhile Trumpf plays golf. The death rate there 'is what it is'. Does Nero come to mind for anyone else ?

Joe

Andrews is an easy target for the hard right and Trump devotees. But if Trump were in charge in Vic? Can only imagine the mass graves they have to dig, to keep up with the death toll a la NY?

We were too slow, did too little and now Andrews wears the consequences of a (it's just a flu) lassie faire approach initially?

But, now that we know our aging pollies are front and centre in the cross hairs of a killer virus, suddenly the purse strings are ripped apart as far as the idealogical imperitives will allow! TBC.
Alan B.

"Does Nero come to mind for anyone else ?"

Well not immediately, but since you mentioned it....

Nero was falsely accused of fiddling while Rome burned and falsely accused of starting the fire. Of course the accusations were made by people who didn't know what the hell they were talking about.

So yes, the comparison of Trump and Nero is, in this regard, rather apt.

It looks like Lyn's mind must have got a bit muddled with being locked down & all.

Obviously she thought she was doing a bit of a chapter for her book, when she typed this pile of fiction.

mhaze. Wonderfull, exact and pertinent comment, very timely and much enjoyed. Hasbeen. Once again you have ‘nailed’ the authors mindset. She is afflicted with ‘hive mind’. Objectivity is an obscure foreign word for this ‘commentator’. I am quite surprised she has not been removed from social media due to repeated, flagrant predictability in her opinions and writing. Or is that a mandatory position for those wishing to maintain their position?? So very confusing! OLO demonstrates, in these pages, what one used to expect from quality publications. Well done OLO for so adeptly demonstrating ‘free speech’. Donald Trump bad, Dan Andrews good, who woulda thunk it?

how a psy could display such TDS is far more dangerous than the virus itself. To think Lyn could be teaching others this rot.

An excellent article by the author.

Predictable comments from OLO's COVID-(It won't get me)-Libertarians

Study this short interview of Trump http://youtu.be/rKEO_AH734E .

Why do you love this man?

plantagenet

'Why do you love this man?'

because any rationale look at his opponents. Granted Candace Owens would certainly be a good pick.

plantagenet,

The actual interview went for over 34 minutes.

The people who seek to mislead you pick out a few bits out of context and you fall for it....again. Seek out the entire interview to see how you misled.

Its not a question of loving Trump. Its a question of recognising that he's the last best hope for the future of the USA and dominant western civilisation. One doesn't need to love the messenger to love the message.

Lyn Bender, you are a regressive leftist greenie and you voted in the Andrews government that buggered everything up, just as socialists always tend to do. So enjoy your socialist lockdown while the rest of us Australians laugh at you.

I only feel sorry for the 48% of Victorians who did not vote for the Green/Labor government. What's the bet that even after all this is over, people like you will still be voting Green/Labor and wondering why Victoria is broke?

They wanted immigrants because it was good for the economy and the aging population.

Now the immigrants have brought the bloody rona;
The economy is completely stuffed and the aging population are dying in the beds by the droves.

What brilliant foresight, 3 cheers for the idiots...

Victoria, Australia

BACKGROUND

Victoria’s population is among the fastest growing and most multicultural in Australia, forged by successive waves of immigration. Victoria’s greatest assets are its open, accepting and diverse society. By international comparisons, Victoria is one of the world’s most successful and cohesive multicultural nations and is frequently recognised as one of the world’s most liveable cities. Figures from the 2016 census showed that more than one in four Victorians reported being born overseas and nearly half (49%) of all Australians Victorians were either born outside Australia or had at least one parent born outside Australia. People from all over the world have chosen to make Victoria their home, bringing with them their experience, their heritage and their culture.
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Australia is a federation of six states and two mainland territories, with three tiers of government, comprising national, state/territory and local. The national, state and territory governments work closely together under a national framework approach to prevent and counter violent extremism (PVE and CVE). Formal cooperation mechanisms include an overarching national committee and working groups addressing particular PVE and CVE priorities which enable the sharing of information, resources and expertise. At the same time, under our federal structure, each level of government is able to adopt and implement approaches to PVE and CVE that meet local needs and priorities.
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As Victoria’s capital city, Melbourne is a fast-growing, highly diverse city and home to over 4 million people. Greater Melbourne is a sprawling city covering 31 separate municipalities. It has cultural precincts that are home to specific cultural communities, but greater Melbourne is also characterised by strong diversity within municipalities. For example, Greater Dandenong is home to people from 157 different birth countries, where more than half of all residents were born outside Australia and more than 70% of people speak a language other than English. Melbourne is one of the 100 Resilient Cities, and has been recognised as one of the world’s most liveable cities.

http://strongcitiesnetwork.org/en/city/victoria-australia/

"All of us Victorians, and indeed all Australians, have to accept that terrorism is a part of Contemporary Australia."

Victorian Premier, Daniel Andrews October 2015

Meanwhile in Taiwan with no lockdowns except the infected and vulnerable only 7 deaths. But of course those suffering TDS have to continue to change the 'facts' to fit their deranged narrative. Morrison will be shown to have made the most stupid decision of the century by teaming up with socialist and in Victoria's case the most incompetent Premier and Health officials in the country. Oh for a Trump here in Australia.

mhaze,
>Nero was falsely accused of fiddling while Rome burned
Violins hadn't been invented back then, but who's to say he wasn't doing another kind of fiddling?

>and falsely accused of starting the fire. Of course the accusations were
>made by people who didn't know what the hell they were talking about.
Though he didn't personally start the fire (and was out of Rome at the time) it's more likely to have been done on his orders than not. Nero had the most to gain from the fire, as it cleared the way for his grand rebuilding of Rome. And who else could have prevented the fire fighters from putting it out? Nero blamed the Christians, but they had no apparent motive for the burning of Rome, and it's unlikely the fire fighters would have complied if it was the Christians who had instructed them not to intervene.

Not everything a dehumanised (pussy groping) Trump does is unethical or deranged? He has it would seem, lifted a decades-long prohibition on MSR thorium. And now the US Atomic agency is front and centre with new R+D. Why, they even gave one of MSR thorium's top experts a job and premier role heading up the thorium R+D department. None other that long time thorium activist and expert, (former NASA) scientist and nuclear technologist, Kirk Sorensen.

One still recalls Trump's activities, ineptitude and evocations as the State of NY was burying its covid-19 dead in mass graves, a la the scences of Europe and the Great plague?

Or war before W.W. 1. When the dead, men and horses were buried in mass graves then covered with quick lime before the soil was returned, covering them.

Some OLO posters clearly believe that would be an appropriate outcome in Vic? Given they would put Unca Don in charge, if they had their druthers?
Alan B.

There will be a day when we've beaten this virus and possibly after the next Federal election? When the emphasis will be on a economic recovery from a Great Depression-like state of affairs.

We can return to what we had and did, with predatory parasitic business models and rationale getting all the guernseys?

Then set ourselves for decades of, the same old, (lead in the saddle bag) business as usual and little progress, save for the crime rate! Which will go through the roof as a survival stratergy for the poor and downtrodden we create with the, business as usual, predatory parasitic business model, i.e., explotative capitalism?

Alternatively, if intelligently led!? And that's a BIG IF? We could adopt a Great Depression-era style, new deal and the cooperative capitalism that led to a period of unprecedented prosperity and growth, that of itself, made the comparative, huge debt burden they'd accrued, simply disappear!

A good template for a recovery that just does not leave the least among us, behind! When the catch cry will have to be, Automate or perish.

And when the NBN will come into its own to eliminate the parasitic, paper shuffling middleman from all sectors of a (co-ops) factory direct economy to allow the recovery to proceed at maximun possible velocity!
Alan B

Sorry AlBy,

Yours is a spent dream.
Already the groundwork for recovery (sic), is established, as over on the other page explains.
It's as before, weeping and wailing for the down trodden Chinese middle class and any excuse to overpopulate Au.
It'll be suck up to the Chinese communist Party by the abandonment of any consistent or acceptable ethics or morals, and sell, sell, sell.

Nothing will change except more nailing-in for the wealthy; with a big inclusion of the political class who coincidentally make rules to suit themselves, with no penalty for breaking them.

Dan

12 more dead today, plus 466 new cases. Andrews should be thinking hard about taking anything else from China before he signs up to the BRI with them.

Aidan,

"Violins hadn't been invented back then, but who's to say he wasn't doing another kind of fiddling?"

The fiddling idea is a recent invention. The ancient accusation was that he was playing his lyre. But an accusation from those who loathed him.

" it's more likely to have been done on his orders than not. Nero had the most to gain from the fire, as it cleared the way for his grand rebuilding of Rome."

Its always fraught to assume that those who benefit from an event, caused the event eg the USA came out of WW1 better placed than any other nation, but clearly didn't cause WW1. (and myriad other examples).
Also remember that Nero later became a reviled figure, and that his successors (the Flavians) had an interest in denigrating him to justify their usurping of power.
And finally, Rome was prone to fire for most of its history. Crassus, a century earlier, had become, by some calculations, the wealthiest man who ever lived, based on his private fire-brigade.

So its more likely that the fire started as an accident (like the fire of London) and just got away. Then to contain it, officials lit fire-breaks which some saw as causing the fire and also allowed some places to burn in order to control the fire elsewhere, as they did in London and as we do with bush-fires.

We'll never know, but I come down on Nero's side here. Once rumours started that he was to blame, he sought a scape-goat and the Christians, already a problem were perfect.

'Not everything a dehumanised (pussy groping) Trump does is unethical or deranged?'

locker room talk that apologised for Alan B. Then ask any women if they prefer a bloke talking c ap in the locker room or Joe who sticks his fingers where they are not wanted. Then again you get most things wrong like the lying liberal left media.

Dearest runner.

In the trenches during the WW1, the mortar platoon was nicknamed the "s*it and runs".

The reason for that was, after firing a volley of mortars towards enemy lines, they would pack up quickly before a return volley from the enemy caused them personally any harm.
Unfortunately for the troops in set positions, no similar choices.

Why this story? Engaging Allan B in any normal return fire, is generally not going to happen. Our glorious Al is platoon commander of the mortars.

Dan

The eternally whining Dan can't stop personalising everything and is so devoid of goodwill, everything is impossible.

Almost as if he hopes nobody will listen to me, or take onboard,ideas that were singularly successful during the Depression-era.

As for what has been set in train, allegedly?

Nothing has been carved in stone! We do not need any more economic migrants! We do need the world's cheapest, cleanest, safest, reliable, dispatchable energy and from a source we can never ever run out of.

If we want to beat the pants off of the 'emerging" economies, we need to eliminate the profit demanding middleman and make our manufaturing, a (cooperative capitalism) factory direct model.

We need to give industrialists an irresistable reason to come here, set up cotton mills etc, engage in worker participation partnership arrangements that work for them, their extremely well-rewarded workforce.

Those reason are, the lowest costing energy, i.e., 1.98 cents PKWH!

Real tax reform as a universal 15% unavoidable flat tax, which when adjust for the lack of any compliance costs, is just 8% in real terms.

For starters, collecting at least another 60 billon per, the consequence of eliminating more holes than Swiss cheese!

And that's before the new industries we encourage get rolling, along with a exodus here, of self funded retirees, that the new deal encourages.

Self-funded, cashed up retirees are the ideal migrant. They are past child-bearing age, only need health care and that'd be via their insurance and private health care, both of which would be mandatory.

They wouldn't hang around too long, when their real estate holdings would go to the market!

The final keys to our recovery would be a massive spend on new public housing along the new rapid rail routes we'd also have to build to get the economy back into turbocharged top gear!

And I can show how that's done without taxpayers funds, or more debt! Even where we must spend a trillion! Every dollar invested returns at least 2.5 AUD!

Those who stand up and get them done, assured of a very long political life!
Alan B.

Keep in mind everybody that Daniel Andrews was being constantly pressured and harassed by Scott Morrison, Dan Tehan, Josh Frydenberg, et al of the 'We went to Hawaii during the 2019 bushfire catastrophe' party to open the borders and get businesses and schools open immediately when Victoria was experiencing its first wave of the WuFlu.

Let me be the first to shake the hand of Scott Morrison because no one else in Cobargo seems to.

Now this is just downright annoying! Shouldn't everybody in Sweden be dead by now, I mean with no lockdown and all?

http://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-deaths-per-million-7-day-average?country=~SW