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Total lockdown and Henrik Ibsen : Comments

By Arthur Dent, published 8/7/2020

There is still no recognition that the need for this retreat indicates that the current level of opening up is already unsustainable.

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Melbourne apparently has 1,000+ people who refuse to be tested because they see anti-COVID measures as a symptom of excessive State control.

Did such people frequent the crowded BLM Melbourne protests a COVID gestation period ago?

Might they be over-represented in the public housing blocks in question?

Most in the blocks would be blameless, just stuck there.
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 5:56:50 PM
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Easy fix is to move all these tenants out to the City fringe in new housing. That could all be paid for by selling off the distressed inner city apartments. Millenials would line up to do up a good sized apartment in need of TLC. Win win! No sale to one big developer who would bribe themselves into a knock down price but individual buyers only who have to renovate or lose the unit.
The current tenants cannot argue for residency if they do not have a job the outer fringe will cater nicely for them all.
Posted by JBowyer, Thursday, 9 July 2020 9:08:16 AM
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A good article about the housing towers by Lowy Institute "Interpreter" 6 July 2020 see http://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/cost-conspiracy-muddling-public-health-messages

eg.

"A June update revealed that right-wing extremist investigations now make up a third of ASIO’s domestic caseload, with a warning that far-right groups are using Covid-19 as a cover to push ideologies and recruit."

"The potency of this mix of beliefs was manifested in rallies around Australia in May, with protesters calling Covid-19 a scam and protesting against vaccines, pharmaceutical companies, fluoride and 5G, which has been falsely claimed as a cause of Covid-19 with tenacity on social media."

Those who consider COVID a scam to increase the power of the State include:

- the well known Anarchist black mask wearing Left-Wing demonstrators of Melbourne

- BUT more dangerously (because they're less established, hence less identified, and they're armed) the Extreme Right-Wing GUN OWNING "Tarrant-like" Libertarians of Melbourne, Ballarat, Bendigo and rural towns/areas.
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 9 July 2020 4:22:52 PM
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Whether opening up lockdown is sustainable depends on reality of the coronavirus covid situation.

This year 2020 is the first year people who have caught the coronavirus flu are being counted.
Prior to 2020 regarding influenza cold and coronavirus flu, only deaths were counted.
Coronavirus is a flu and death due to coronavirus prior to 2020 was recorded in the flu death total.
Note the death toll for influenza and links to pneumonia, here:
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/3303.0~2017~Main%20Features~Deaths%20due%20to%20influenza~5#:~:text=In%202017%20there%20were%201%2C255,464%20influenza%20deaths%20were%20recorded.

It seems the more people tested for coronavirus the more the total of infection increases. What does that testing actually prove?
Multi millions of Australians are not being tested.
Various test kits are unreliable.
Virus experts are still pondering why antibodies are not showing up in testing of a previous covid patient when they should be.

If mainstream media news is switched off it's possible to more fully digest reality of coronavirus v/s draconian lockdown.

Reality is there is no mass death in Australia as evidence of the 8,886 tested infections shows, with 7,487 recovered.
And reality is that to this date, 9th July 2020, there have been only 106 unfortunate deaths in a population of 25 million.
There is a similar almost negligible rate in New Zealand.
In PNG and Solomon Islands has been no death at all due to covid.

Will all the testing and lockdown occur again next year?
Posted by JF Aus, Thursday, 9 July 2020 6:08:24 PM
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Yes minimal deaths in Australia (106) and NZ (22, ie. less than massacre by Tarrant)

BECAUSE we have strict COVID lockdown measures.

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_deaths#July_2020

Would some libertarians prefer:

Worst-deaths-in-world in "tough" gun-toting Libertarian US with 129,963 dead?
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 9 July 2020 8:04:02 PM
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Pete, the testings will continue until all of the populace has given the government their DNA samples aka: COVID-19 Test Kits...or until the morale improves/& or a "vaccine is distributed". Divide and conquer works as well today as it did under the Romans.
Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Monday, 13 July 2020 9:14:57 AM
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