Bazz wrote: “So, when Israel claims those areas where Jews previously lived long before Mohammad arrived on the scene they are applying the Islamic priciple.”

Judaism was invented centuries before Islam.

Psalm 137:1 in the Jewish Bible

“By the rivers of Babylon, There we sat down, yea, we wept When we remembered Zion.”

The wish of a Jewish return to Zion dates back to the Babylonian exile.

https://www.britannica.com/event/Babylonian-Captivity

“Babylonian Captivity, also called Babylonian Exile, the forced detention of Jews in Babylonia following the latter’s conquest of the kingdom of Judah in 598/7 and 587/6 BCE.”

https://www.patheos.com/library/islam

"Islam is a monotheistic religious tradition that developed in the Middle East in the 7th century C.E. Islam, which literally means "surrender" or "submission," was founded on the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad as an expression of surrender to the will of Allah, the creator and sustainer of the world."

Islam was invented over a thousand years later than the Jewish idea of a return to Zion so Islam was applying the Jewish principle.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/history/spain_1.shtml
Islamic Spain (711-1492)

"Islamic Spain was a multi-cultural mix of the people of three great monotheistic religions: Muslims, Christians, and Jews."

When Christians reconquered Spain they gave Jews and Muslims the choice of conversion or exile. Even if Jews and Muslims converted the Christian Inquisition burned many descendants of Muslims and Jews at the state. The Muslim occupation of Spain was a Golden Age. The Christian reconquest of Spain was accompanied by persecution and murder.

Both Islam and Christianity have a history of intolerance, but my reading of history has given me the idea that Christianity was far worse. Christian intolerance resulted in the murder of 6,000,000 Jews during WW2. The ground was prepared for the Nazi slaughter by centuries of Christian intolerance.

Well said david f!

Pete

And well said Bazz, of course.

Is important to remember that many Jews in Israel do not have Jewish ancestors there going back to biblical times. The Palestinian Jews basically peacefully coexisted with Muslims and other ethnic groups for hundreds of years. The problems started with the Balfour agreement in 1917. The British as a bribe to have the US enter World War 1 on their side promised influential Zionists in the US that if they did, a Jewish homeland would be created in Palestine - where the Allies were taking control from the collapsing Ottoman Empire. Seems obvious that an undeclared objective of many governments especially which supported this was to get rid of some Jews from their own countries where they have long antagonised locals in some respects. Note there are over 100 instances in the last 1,000 years of Jews boing kicked out of jurisdictions.

Seems the large majority of Jews who are recent immigrants to Israel have Ashkenazi heritage. ie Their ancestors came from the Kingdom of Khazaria in the area north and east of the Black sea. In about 750 AD, neighbouring Russia and Persia invaded for the purpose of improving the ethical standards of their neighbour. To help towards this, demanded that Khazaria adopt one of the three Abrahamic religions. Judaism was selected as the official one. However, in about 1250 AD, behaviour of people in this rogue kingdom was as bad as ever The Russians and Persians invaded again and many Khazarians who followed Judaism fled to other countries -especially in Europe where they established themselves. Descendants of these Khazarians, who have no ancestral ties to Palestine are now the Zionists there stealing land from local Palestinians.

https://forward.com/opinion/382967/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-khazars-heres-the-proof/

“The paper allowed me to formulate some methodological principles about working in what are sometimes called “soft sciences.” Historiography and linguistics are not formal disciplines like mathematics or logic; nothing can be proved definitively. This allows for the introduction of what we might call “junk science” — a category to which the Khazarian hypothesis belongs.

Nevertheless, the absolute lack of any fundamental proof for the theory has not stopped it from catching the imaginations of geneticists, linguists and hordes of lay folk alike.”

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“Despite this institutional backing, the theory is absolutely without evidence. As any historian will tell you, generations of Jews, like generations of any people, leave historical traces behind them. These traces come in multiple forms. For starters, people leave behind them historical documents and archaeological data. Predictably, archaeologic evidence about the widespread existence of Jews in Khazaria is almost nonexistent. While a series of independent sources does testify to the existence in the 10th century of Jews in the Kingdom of Khazaria, and while some of these sources also indicate that the ruling elite of Khazaria embraced Judaism, the Khazarian state was destroyed by Russians during the 960s. In other words, we can be confident that Judaism was not particularly widespread in that kingdom.

The next historical record of Jews — in a few cities that today belong to western Ukraine and western Belarus — shows up in the 14th century, when Jews are regularly referred to in numerous documents.
And yet, no direct historiographical data is available to connect the Jews who lived in Eastern Europe in the 14th century with their co-religionists from the 10th-century Khazaria.”
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“But history is not the only discipline to debunk the Khazarian hypothesis. Linguistics, too, and the study of Yiddish help us rule out a Khazarian ancestry for today’s Jews. Since the 17th century, Yiddish was the vernacular language of all Jews of Eastern Europe. All its main structural elements are German, though during the past few centuries, they also underwent a strong influence of Slavic languages.”

In Islamic Spain it was not the uniform intellectual paradise of
equality. Moslems were the rulers and everyone else were dhimmini.
That is second class citizens. The academic activity was important
as many documents were being translated from Greek.
The Jews took a active part of that effort.
I have more into on Andalusia and the way the Moors ruled but I am
going to bed now and will look it up tomorrow.