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Benefits of equality : Comments

By John Avery, published 12/6/2020

Although years of slavery were ended after the Civil War, and despite the efforts of the Civil Rights Movement, racisim is widespread today.

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I would personally like to congratulate, John Avery, the author of this racist, white hating article, for contributing it to OLO for examination.

John begins by quoting the great leaders of the Age of Enlightenment, conveniently forgetting to mention that this period of history, which had such a significant impact on all of human civilisation, was began by the white western civilisation he despises.

His premise is, that everything bad that ever happened to the world is all the fault of Europeans. Which is a racist premise in itself. He equates racism with colonialism, by that of course he means white racism and white colonialism, as the root of all evil.

Of course, never mentioning non white racism and non white colonialism is a pre requisite for espousing this type of self flagellating "logic."

His only example of clearly cruel and utterly contemptible white colonialism was King Leopold of Belgium's disgusting cruelties in the Congo. This he equates with all European colonialism. Gee, that's funny. Using the same logic and applying it to black people is what black activists call "racial profiling", which is sin when applied to blacks, but not apparently to whites.

John presents the usual Quixotic claim "we can save all the problems of the world" if only the "rich" (meaning of course "whites") would stop spending money on armaments. This neglects to point out that western democracies never go to war with each other. And as long as totalitarians keep trying for world or regional domination, the democracies are forced to spend money to defend themselves. The democracies dropped that ball before WW2 and we nearly lost the war.

Lastly comes the spurious claim that the Scandinavian countries are leading the way in reforming white western civilisation. Let's look at Sweden. It went socialist, realised it made a mistake, and went capitalist. It abolished all censorship was so shocked by the results that it reinstated it. Last, it embraced multiculturalism to such a degree that Sweden will be the first European country to have a Muslim majority population and join the bloody caliphate.

Some triumph.
Posted by LEGO, Friday, 12 June 2020 9:31:23 AM
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In amongst all that expressive condemnation of the appalling treatment of the native peoples of other countries by Europeans, I can find no mention of the cruel and inhumane behaviour of those very people towards their own. Many of these native people had slaves, all had a history of massacre and torture of their own. Africans were the ones who trapped their tribal enemies and sold them into slavery. Native Americans had slaves, those enemies they hadn’t tortured to death in the most horrific manner.
Mans inhumanity towards man isn’t restricted to European people, it has always existed amongst every race, and the European slave trade was certainly no worse than that which existed in the Muslim world and involved up to 15 million people and wasn’t outlawed until 1924.
Nor is there any mention that the British were the ones to push for the abolishment of slavery, which led to other countries abandoning the practise as well.
Posted by Big Nana, Friday, 12 June 2020 9:47:26 AM
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The author is more of a 'theoretical realist' than a 'theoretical chemist'. He describes in the final section of his article a world that he would like to see - we would all like to see - but it so lacks reality that his vision is theoretical or utopian.
Posted by Bernie Masters, Friday, 12 June 2020 10:51:01 AM
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As usually, it's all down to white people, and it's whites who magically need to arrange 'equality of income' and fix everyone up, according on people like Avery. LEGO is correct: this is a racist tract.

The real racists are the blackfellas and other non-whites who blame millions of other people for blackfella problems just because they are white. Its high time for we whites to start giving these non-white racists and renegade, virtue signalling and scared whites a taste of their own nastiness.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 12 June 2020 10:56:40 AM
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.. racisim is widespread today.

Are there any figures on which society has the most racists ? And, which ethnic group is gaining the most by callously exploiting victimhood ?
As there are many more Chinese & Arabs & Africans than there are Europeans, does that equate to the Europeans being down the ladder a few rungs by the number of racists ?
What is the percentage among non-Europeans who self-loathe as much as the Europeans ?
Posted by individual, Friday, 12 June 2020 11:04:21 AM
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Transprtees were virtual slaves. As were so-called indentured servants.

As were many Aborigines, paid only in tobacco, flour, sugar and tea?

As were many islanders, captured and or tricked by blackbirders to work in the cane fields!

Equality? Don't make me laugh, we've a way to go before any such claim can be made! Albeit, if you live in the Canberra bubble, everything might look, hunky-dory?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 12 June 2020 1:10:16 PM
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The greatest inequality is really in effort for money ! Those who do virtually the least, get paid the most !

Alan B,
If you were somewhere where there isn't a shop to buy food etc. would you rather be paid in money or in food, tobacco etc ?
The bulk of Cane workers were legitimate visa applicants (see SL Archives) but yes, in the very early days black birding was a very bad part of the history here as were the massacres of shipwrecked people the retaliation of which is now seen as racism.
The worst quoters of history are those who judge it with hindsight ! They're usually University indoctrinated !
Posted by individual, Friday, 12 June 2020 5:10:59 PM
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Been in places where there were no shops, but travelling storekeepers and mail order suppliers.

As for those paying their workers in a monthly bare minimum of flour, sugar, tea and tobacco? Where did they get their supplies?

As always, there are some folk who comment here, who think things they would never ever accept for themselves, their kids or their kid's kids, are ok for the least well off!

Big Nana is correct about the evidence of slavery in many races. And common practice even in the days when Jesus walked the earth.

However as new energy sources (water wheels etc) were discovered and put to work, this practice diminished somewhat.

So, when carbon became our slave, millions of oppressed humans were released from a life of endless dawn to dark endeavour. None more demanding than that experienced in northern cane fields.

Therefore, when we obtained affordable washing machines and water pumps, millions of women around the world, around a third of them to date, were released from a life of familial servitude!

No idea why all this was considered women's work!? But was and is to this day in some cultures, who have not progressed much past the stone age. And where myth and legend are the tools that maintain this inequality!

The key to a greater level of real equality rather than the bogus versions preferred by some posters, is inherent in truly affordable energy. TBC.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 13 June 2020 10:45:56 AM
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Where did they get their supplies?
Alan B,
It was brought in at great expense, effort & had to be most carefully managed for long periods.
Alan B,
you need to stop looking at the past through hindsight ! I can sort of relate to such conditions when I lived on islands with no power & cargo being brought twice a month.
The people who preceded me only had cargo once a month & they remarked how lucky I was.
The island people worked in gardens & many were engaged in house building. All that progress came to a sudden stop when Labor got into power.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 13 June 2020 11:27:14 AM
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Come on Alan. time to grow up, get the chip off your shoulder, open your eyes & see the truth some time.

My father & a thousands of other Sydney types was paid to ring bark trees & clear land during the depression. It was the only work going. The standard rate was flour, sugar tea, a tent & 5 bob, [shillings] a week. He spent 2 years at that, getting back to Sydney & family only once in that time.

If your so called slaves were getting 10 bob a week they were on very high wages for the time.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 13 June 2020 4:06:30 PM
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Hi Alan,

Where did pastoral stations get their rations from ? They bought them from the suppliers in the cities, and the suppliers sent them up, by ship, road (bullock teams) and/or rail. Transport costs often were higher than the original cost of goods.

In SA, which is all I know much about, missions and pastoral stations would send in requests for rations for Aboriginal people under their care, and the Protector would arrange with providers (flour mills, the Government Storekeeper, etc.) to send provisions to the transport points. At first, these were shipping companies and carting contractors, then the railways.

In the early days, before the railways were built, it could take a year for camel trains to get provisions from Adelaide up to the north-east missions such as Killalpaninna and Kopperamanna. The transport costs - until rail was extended to Marree, and then in 1889 to Oodnadatta - were often much higher than the cost of the goods. After 1889, with rail across most of the colony, the costs for the 'Aborigines Department', i.e. the one-man Department, i.e. the Protector, declined drastically.

The range of rations extended from the basic flour, tea, tobacco, sugar, rice, sago, fishing lines, hooks and netting twine, to clothing material and thread, and a surprisingly wide range of goods. In much of SA, although perhaps not in other colonies, free medical services were paid for by the colonial government, decades before the supposedly-first free public health service, the NHS in Britain. And of course, Aboriginal people were given free travel passes by rail and coach for legitimate business.

I've transcribed the nine thousand-or-so letters of the Protector between 1837 and 1912, all on my web-site: www.firstsources.info

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Saturday, 13 June 2020 4:20:37 PM
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I recall reading the magistrate reports from a northern Australian settlement in which it stated the frequent delays of supplies by up to six months.
Imagine if all these accusations of whites shooting Aborigines as if it were Sport were actually as true as the hindsight do-gooders try to make it sound.
Ammunition was vital for defence & if I were in a situation of running out of supplies & ammunition I most certainly would not go around expending it if it wasn't absolutely vital for my survival !
The provisions give to Aborigines working were payment & it was accepted as sufficient then but this not acceptable now by people who never have to put in an effort to make it through life in above average comfort nowadays !
Posted by individual, Sunday, 14 June 2020 9:17:32 AM
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Individual,

You might have come across examples of this sort of activity:

In SA and elsewhere, missions provided rations for families living on them. When men went away to work, the rations were of course continued. When the men came back from shearing etc., they were supposed to pay for those rations issued while they were working - otherwise, clearly, families would have been getting rations AND the men would have been paid a wage.

[Incidentally, in missionaries' journals, Royal Commission reports, etc., it seems that Aboriginal workers were paid standard wages. Wow, there's a vigorous discussion right there.

In the 1877 Royal Commission in Victoria (available on my web-site on the Victoria Page: www.firstsources.info ), there were complaints from missions about men earning good money at shearing, being paid, then blowing the lot on grog, and so having nothing much to bring back to the missions to pay for their families' rations:

The missions were appealing for station-owners to pay the men by cheque which would be sent to the mission, so that the costs of rations could be deducted and the men imbursed with the rest. Of course, being so much in front of the rest of Australia, in SA, that's what was happening (and I suspect that it might have been happening in other colonies - and later, States - such as Queensland).

Of course, in the pastoral industry, not too many stations had Coles or Woolies, so payment for work was also in the form of rations rather than money - not just rtions etc. for the actual workers, but for their dependants as well. Probably the value of the rations and accommodation and odd bits and pieces, boots here, hats there, did not match up with what would have been the value of the wages earnt. But that's for somebody else to check the relevant records. I suspect though, that that was the case.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Sunday, 14 June 2020 9:38:10 AM
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Individual,

As to the range of rations, here is an example at the Anglican Mission at Yelta (late 1850s-1968), on the Murray near Mildura: [from the 1861 Annual Report]:

MISSION STATION, YELTA —T. Goodwin, 13th October, 1860.-

90 pairs trowsers, 500 yards print, 500 yards calico, 50 pairs blankets, 2 cross-cut saws, 2 cwt. assorted nails, 1 doz. spades, 3 assorted rakes,
2 pairs maul rings, 1 doz. assorted wedges, 2 hand saws, 4 oz. Dover's powders, 28 lbs. Epsom salts,
1 lb. senna, 4 bottles liniment for rheumatism. &c., 1 lb. pill in lump for coughs, &c., 5 lbs. mustard,
2 lbs. linseed meal, 6 yards adhesive plaster, 1 lb. bluestone, 11b. tow, 15 yards linen for bandages,
scales and weights for medicine and box for same, 3000 lbs. flour, 1000 lbs. sugar, 200 lbs. tea, 100 lbs.
soap, 200 lbs. tobacco.

26th December, 1860.-

2 tons flour, 10 cwt. sugar, 1 chest tea, 56 lbs. tobacco.

[TBC]
Posted by loudmouth2, Sunday, 14 June 2020 9:45:40 AM
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[continued]

16th March, 1861.-2 tons flour, 1 chest tea, a ton sugar, 1 ton rice, 3 cwt. soap, 2 cwt. oatmeal,
1 box pipes, 1 gross knives, 1 gross combs, 1 gross looking glasses, 2 cwt. seine twine, 1 cwt. fishing lines, fish hooks, Nos. 3, 5, 7, 9 and 10, 100 of each,
150 blankets. Men's clothing.-8 doz. cotton shirts, 4 doz. woollen guernseys, 4 doz. red serge shirts, 4 doz. blue serge shirts, 2 doz. waistcoats, 2 doz. coats,
6 doz. felt hats or caps, 12 doz. cotton handkerchiefs. Boys' clothing.-3 doz. cotton shirts, 2 doz. woollen guernseys,
2 doz. red serge shirts, 2 doz. moleskin trowsers, 2 doz. jackets (assorted sizes),
3 doz. men's blucher boots, 2 doz. boys' blucher boots, 3 doz. women's and girls' boots. Women's clothing.-3 doz. red serge petticoats, 100 yards flannel for petticoats, 100 yards red serge for making petticoats, 3 doz. woollen polka jackets 3 lbs. assorted thread,
3 doz. white cotton thread, 4 doz. brown and black cotton thread, 1 gross assorted broad tape,
2 doz. assorted thimbles,
4 oz. sulphate of zinc, 1 lb. washed flowers of sulphur. Homeopathic medicine.-16 oz. tinct. of arnica, 4 oz. tinct. of aconite,
1 oz. tinct. of belladona, 4 oz. tincturis sulphuris.
3 American felling axes, 12 handles for ditto.

Yes, I was surprised too.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Sunday, 14 June 2020 9:48:06 AM
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A few words about Antifa, which is heavily involved in these demonstrations and property wrecking, and statue vandalism. 'Equality', 'racism' or 'black lives' is nothing to them, but wrecking Western society is.

Antifaschistische Aktion—was born during the street-fights of the 1932 Weimar Republic. It was founded by the Stalinist Communist Party of Germany (KPD).

Anti-fascist Action’s sole purpose was to help the Stalinists combat other political parties for control of the streets.

They fought the Nazis, but they also fought liberal parties, conservative parties, and anyone and everyone who got in their way. Antifa exists to serve as a tool of revolutionary politics in a failed (or failing) state. We could well be seeing the failure of the West and Australia right now.

Donald Trump is right to aim at declaring Antifa a terrorist organisation. Scott Morrison will continue smirking and saying nothing.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 14 June 2020 10:12:27 AM
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Thanks Joe, for the perspective and the accurate research!

Interesting that some received standard wages! For doing the same days work as their white contemporaries! But then Adelaide stands almost alone a the one colony, not founded by chained, slave labour convicts, but ethical Christians.

Hasbeen. My maternal great, great-granddaddy was also a depression-era logger and was rewarded solely in flour, sugar, baccy and tea, due to the colour of his skin!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 14 June 2020 11:39:28 AM
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Aboriginal "equality."

All people except "aboriginal" people in NSW must pay for fishing licenses.

All people except 'aboriginal" people must pay to enter national parks.

All people except aboriginal" people must pay their own university fees.

All people except "aboriginal" people must keep a record of their attempts to find a job before they can claim welfare.

Aboriginal people are the only race to have a government department set up entirely for their benefit.

Aboriginal people get free legal advice, all others are expected to pay if they can.

Aboriginal people are the only race who may advertise for government jobs which are exclusively set aside for aborigines.

Aboriginal people get free dental services provided for them in rural areas by travelling government dentists, the taxpaying whites who live in these rural areas and pay taxes have to travel to large country towns to get dental assistance, and they pay for the treatment themselves.

Aboriginal parents are the only ones who get a special allowance if they make their kids go to school.

Aboriginal people are the only people the government pays "truancy officer" drivers in government supplied cars to take aboriginal kids to school.

Aboriginal schools are the only government schools that give their students free food.

Aboriginal apprentices are taught in special "aboriginal only" classes where the suspicion exists that the courses are dumbed down and the exams very liberally marked.

Aboriginal people do not appear to pay Land Tax on their extensive land holding which every other citizen must do.

Aboriginal people are paid royalties for minerals on their land which other races do not get.

Aboriginal people have a lower retirement age. (55)
Posted by LEGO, Monday, 15 June 2020 6:09:22 AM
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LEGO,

My Aboriginal daughter owes $ 10,000 in HECS fees. She's happy to pay them.

And when she was unemployed, she had to do what any other Australian had to do to fulfil the conditions to get UB/JS.

All government departments are set up for the benefit of all of us. Otherwise, on your criterion, there would be only one government department, i.e. Ken Wyatt's.

And so on. And on.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Monday, 15 June 2020 12:08:57 PM
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