Oh it turns out Professor Ferguson's bonking partner (while he had covid) while a mother of 2 environmental activist. You know the type who attend extinction rebellion stuff while flying around the world telling others not to. Friends you have been conned.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8289921/Scientist-advice-led-lockdown-QUITS-breaking-restrictions-meet-married-lover.html

Clearly, going by the dreadful experience of the US and Sweden, not to mention other unfortunate countries, the 'leave it alone' or bogus 'herd immunity' approach has not worked. The US has more than a million cases while South Australia has had no new cases or two weeks. Its Curve is still peaking, while SA actually has no curve to speak of.

As our prime minister has pointed out,

http://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/herd-immunity-a-death-sentence-says-pm-scott-morrison/news-story/57e90663bd72897d366f0957a243faf7

So we'll be back in business while those sh!thole countries pursuing the phony 'herd immunity' will still be grappling with - and losing control of - their Curve. And their economies.

I really do fear that the US will be destroyed by this idiotic approach. Sooner or later, they will have to lock-down, perhaps county by county, then state by state, then, in a few years and millions of lives later, the US nation can join up its economy with those of the more sensible countries who locked down early.

God help the American people.

Joe

Loudmouth, very apt! There you go again extrapolating figures you have plucked out of thin air. What is it, seven Billion people on earth? They all will not get this virus, some will but the majority will literally shrug it off. The old and unfit will suffer as they are anyway from cancer, heart attacks, stroke, get the picture? People are dying every day. It is now starting to dawn on people how some grossly overpaid public servants have frightened the proverbial out of so many people will cause a massive depression. This will go on for years and years.
Joe do you think you are immortal? Well will you now hide in a slit trench in the back garden shivering in fear? I will live my life and you live yours. I will promise not to stop you from starting your doomsday bunker if you promise to leave me alone to live my life. Nothing you or I do will stop us both dying, eventually.

Hi JBowyer,

The lovely thing about the suppression-and-lockdown approach is that very soon one does not have to worry about burying oneself in a slit trench. One can go about business as usual very soon.

But with the 'devil take the hindermost', 'it's going to happen so let it' approach, or 'herd immunity', is exactly that - the only way to escape is to hide, to bury oneself, to keep away from everybody else - ultimately, for individuals to go through their own private lockdowns. And the realisation - too late for so many - that lock-down, with all its economic costs, is the only way to go.

Get back to me in a couple of months, when SA is back in business, while the unfortunate US will still be in the ghastly soup of millions of cases, perhaps over a million deaths, a busted health system and incompetent administrations. But if that's what you prefer ......

Joe

Dear JBowyer,

"In 2017–18, the Australian Government spent over $18 billion on aged care. Of this total amount: 67% was on residential care (over $12 billion) 28% was on home care and support services (over $5 billion)"

Given your mantra how much would you like to see this reduced by? As you say "The old and unfit will suffer as they are anyway from cancer, heart attacks, stroke, get the picture? People are dying every day."

Why prolong it through providing care at such an expense to the nation?

SR old and unfit describes me and I would rather nature take its course than some no nothing useless political medico decide how to destroy the Australian economy to supposedly save me.
You and Joe amaze me! nothing has happened! I will repeat that! Nothing has happened except we are staring down a black hole of economic destruction! Perhaps when it gets really bad you will understand and as Sweden is still chugging along and the US will be out of the depression before us the penny will drop.
Still let's just hold fire, stop arguing and see what happens this year?