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Political lessons from the COVID-19 pandemic : Comments

By Peter Bowden, published 6/5/2020

Whether they get to zero or not, what Australia and New Zealand have already accomplished is a remarkable cause for hope.

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Dear Raycom,

What on earth are you talking about. 156,000 case equates to around 6,000 per million and countries like Spain and Belgium copped that because restrictions came too late. It is a likelihood that without restrictions we would have gotten there too or do you have some magical reason to pull out of your backside to say we were somehow immune to those numbers.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 2:39:16 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICtsXNtf_GQ&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3tgG_LodpeBoI-RQI7beMbKDQMf9whvYTBll2xeqs86_UYVqEJ_joWnw0

watch before deleted
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 3:03:08 PM
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You're right, JBowyer, if Australia had followed the US model, we would have successfully had around five thousand deaths - and still counting healthily, given a much longer tail-off - instead of a measly one hundred or so.

Yes, by coming down hard and early, this government cramped economic activity merely so that they could save - what ? - 4,900 lives ? Of people who, as Runner has helpfully pointed out, would die anyway, sooner or later ?

Yes, by slavishly following this Morrison Model, we may well have been able to get our economy back towards 'normal' far, far quicker than the US will be able to, under their amazingly competent government, but so what ? Look what it's cost - Billions !

Thanks, JBowyer !

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 3:04:16 PM
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Dear runner,

Where do you find these fruit loops?

Mikovits got done for manipulating results.

“Using tools obtained from Silverman, Mikovits began to look for XMRV in her CFS samples. In late 2008, a graduate student, who subsequently was hired as her technician, obtained two positive results from a group of twenty samples. He and Mikovits successively altered the experimental conditions until all samples gave a positive signal."

Result doctoring for which she rightly got fired.

“Mikovits and collaborators went on to participate (alongside two other research groups) in a larger 2012 study over 147 CFS patients and 146 controls. The study concluded that there was no evidence of XMRV or MLV infection in either group, a result that Mikovits said was "the definitive answer" on the issue.”

So went from a concocted 100% infection rate to zero. At least there were others there to keep her honest the second time. Thankfully the published papers which relied on her earlier work were mainly redacted.

She then got jail for for 5 days for taking propriety material from a lab where she was working and refusing to return it. Eventually she coughed up.

Now she is claiming that the coronavirus was "caused by a bad strain of flu vaccine that was circulating between 2013 and 2015".

She is a discredited top shelf whacko mate. Who else do you have for us?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 3:35:42 PM
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and then we had one of the main scientific 'experts' who advised Boris to shut down the UK out bonking his new found *%* while being infected with the disease. I am sure when she went back to her husband and kids they appreciated it. And lets not forget the many highly paid US Mayors and CNN figures demanding lockdown while completely ignoring their own commands while fining others. Shows you that we are largely led by self interested corrupt figures who have managed to bluff the plebs. In a few years time we will look back and see how easily humans are controlled by fear.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 3:37:55 PM
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Studies show that people who listen to the news every day or read newspapers are more depressed than those who do not. All that doom and gloom, the temporary obsessions of the media - and there's not a damn thing we can do about it.

I can't claim total immunity, but I never read newspapers or watch the ABC, and I have learned to switch off on hearing the words 'covid' and 'we are all in this together', which we definitely are not.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 3:40:03 PM
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