Toni L,

<<But his claim that "Logical fallacies prevent logical discussions" commits the Fallacy fallacy:>>

I agree that there can be legitimate content / truth in logical fallacies. However, the whole import of a fallacy is that is erroneous reasoning.

OzSpen and NNS,

I see you are trying to avoid a debate on the topic I raised.

If you don't feel confident about putting forward an argument then I'm not one to pressure you other than to say I accept your acquiescence.

So I suggest you both pick up your banners and go back to standing on the street corner crying out "Converts! Converts! God needs converts! Sign up for salvation!"

Dear Ozpen,

It seems you can't help yourself.

Again how is me attacking your ARGUMENTS rather than attacking you PERSONALLY using ad hominem?

This is the direct description from your link;

“Attacking the person making the argument, rather than the argument itself”

Why is this so hard for you? I attacked your arguments and clearly and repeatedly spelt out why they were crap.

As to being blasphemous good God man look at what you are arguing. You are basically giving God a causative role in the Corona Virus in Australia.

From you; “We need to see God in natural disasters, including Covid-19. What is he trying to say to rebellious Aussies who are kicking Him out of their lives?”

which actually begs the question; why are we so less impacted when as a nation we are far more irreligious than the deeply religious countries like the US, Spain, and Italy? What is your version of God sending a message about there?

For you to evoke God's name because you wanted to attack those who are leaving your faith, or those who supported gay marriage for instance is the height of sacrilege, of taking his name in vain. You are treating it as a plaything for your own agendas. Inexcusable I'm afraid and plainly blasphemous.

In the words of a former PM I will not be lectured on blasphemy by this man.

//In your discussions with those of us with a different world view, you have acted like a self-centred narcissist whose only concern is for you and your supreme view of science and the universe, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=act%20like%20a%20dick//

Sorry, what was that you were saying about abusive ad hominems? Because I'm pretty sure that resorting to calling people dicks via hyperlink comes under that heading.

Your criticisms of Mr Opinion contain a fallacy, ergo your reasoning is erroneous and on that grounds we must reject your conclusion that Mr Opinion is 'not writing as a good logical and critical thinker'.

Toni Lavis,

I would actually like to discuss the topic LIFE with OzSpen because I'm interested to see haw LIFE is perceived by someone with a religious view of the world.

In fact I will make the first move by saying I see LIFE as a water-based feeder.

Over to you OzSpen.

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To all and sundry,

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For those who consider that the concept of a god is simply a figment of the imagination, it is evident that neither a “good” nor a “bad” god could possibly have “allowed” the COVID-19.

By the same token, it is understandable that those who are persuaded there really is such a god (“good” or “bad”), nothing could possibly exist in the universe unless it was created by the particular god of their imagination.

The former explain the sudden emergence of COVID-19 as the result of what the French biologist, Jacques Monod, called “chance and necessity” (where “chance is a “random variable” and “necessity” an “inevitable event”).

Whereas, the latter resign themselves to their fate because it is what they consider to be their “god’s will”.

The operatives of the virus, of course, are the same, in both cases.

Here is one possible explanation :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=TPpoJGYlW54

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