loudmouth2,

<<No, I'm suggesting that the laws of physics have been around from everlasting and they'll run to everlasting. I don't know if chance has anything to do with them. >>

What evidence do you have as proof the laws of physics are eternal?

Ozspen,

Please keep at it with LOUDmouth. I reckon he needs all to converting to Christianity you can give him.

Mr Opinion,

<<Please keep at it with LOUDmouth. I reckon he needs all to converting to Christianity you can give him.>>

I have no drawing power to Christ. That's left to God the Father. My role is to present the claims of Christ and defend the Christian faith.

You'll see me less and less on this forum because of the tirade of logical fallacies that come when I present a biblical view on a topic. You know as well as I that these fallacies are meant to divert attention away from the topic being pursue.

OzSpen,

They seem to have been eternal so far :) But I agree, that half a dozen countries should set aside, say, fifty physical scientists each, to study how the world and the universe works from day to day for, say, the next ten years, to see if there is any deviation anywhere from the laws of physics.

Oh wait, they're already doing that, with various astronomical observatories, physics departments at innumerable universities and institutions, and the actual on-the-ground day-to-day operations of us seven or eight billion people across two hundred million square miles, day after day, over the last few thousand years, more or less conforming to those laws.

But you never know :)

Hmm, nothing yet ...

Joe

'You'll see me less and less on this forum because of the tirade of logical fallacies that come when I present a biblical view on a topic. You know as well as I that these fallacies are meant to divert attention away from the topic being pursue.'

hope not Ozspen. It is true that god deniers are not backed by science or rational. I believe however just like utube and facebook opportunities to declare truth are becoming less available and much more heavily censored. Can you believe that anyone who contradicts, exposes and speaks against the World Health Organisation is taken down from utube. This was the mob in February who said their was no human to human transmission of the coronavirus. They also criticised countries for cancelling flights from China. Don't be discouraged by those not interested in truth. Personally I know a number of people who have come to Christ lately. You don't know how many truth seekers are listening in. It is only Christ who can soften a heart and open a person to seek the truth.

loudmouth2,

<<They seem to have been eternal so far :) But I agree, that half a dozen countries should set aside, say, fifty physical scientists each, to study how the world and the universe works from day to day for, say, the next ten years, to see if there is any deviation anywhere from the laws of physics.>>

There's no need to get more physical scientists working on how the universe works daily. God has already told us that: 'For in him [Jesus the Son] all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together (Colossians 1:16-17).

I have greatly benefitted from what astronomers have taught us about the complexity and beauty of the universe - pointing to a Great Creator of the intricacy of design. This universe continues to 'hold together' by the power of God. The reliable Scriptures have told us this.