Alison,

Me neither, but we can read those article abstracts and intros for free :)

Joe

Luciferase,
>Testing will need to go beyond the symptomatic cases, so how long is your piece of string?
What part of "a thousand times more" did you not understand?

We need to test the ENTIRE population, and retest those with symptoms, and those who suspect they may have been in contact with someone affected, and those who travel interstate.

And once the international flights are running again, people who want to come here should be required to be tested a week from departure, then three days from departure, then on departure, then on arrival, and several times after that as well as having to use a phone tracking app for at leat two weeks.

It may sound expensive, but compared to an extended economic shutdown it would be very cheap. And compared to letting the disease run its course, it would be very cheap.

As for herd immunity, that should wait until a vaccine is available.

Agreed Aidan, complete & continued testing & complete quarantine of all effected is the only way of actually beating the thing.

It would be so much cheaper than shutting down, & destroying the economy, & the future for millions of people.

Luciferase,

I'm not disputing your overall 0.2% CFR, but just the breakdown by age. The link you've shown incorporates data from China. Indeed it relies heavily on data from China. But as we've seen China has lied about this from the get-go. (China is asshole!!)

I go here....http://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus#what-do-we-know-about-the-risk-of-dying-from-covid-19

There you'll find that other countries have different data from the age groups than China's (you'll need to scroll a long way into the page to get to the age breakdown data).

Pay your money and take your choice. Personally, I'm think we need to try to avoid having to rely on any data from China

Aidan et al who want more testing...

1. stop ranting the repetitive chant of the now disgraced head of WHO, its bas enough we pay him a salary and god knows how many " brown paper envelopes he gets from Bejing!
2. Testing is not available due to the lack of time o develop the antibody kits and more detailed lab tests. SO those resources available must be used in a targeted fashion, until mass production facilities can ramp up production.
3. China has plenty of kits which it flooded Spain and Italy with ( its only major EU "Belt n Road" sponsors).. problem is they are on 25-30% reliable, therefore useless and even more dangerous than no test.

Yes in the perfect world we all should be tested, but under the circumstance, each countries gov is doing what it can with what its got.

Its so easy for you to whinge and complain, but leave it to the professionals and mouthpieces like Tedros and Dr 'stormin' Norman Swan>

Dear Allison Jane,

Actually your earlier post was pretty good.

As an alternative to paying for the articles loudmouth2 linked to you can always try Researchgate.

Here is a direct link to the first article in full.

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/338754119_Tribalism_in_War_and_Peace_The_Nature_and_Evolution_of_Ideological_Epistemology_and_Its_Significance_for_Modern_Social_Science