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Is there a God : Comments

By Peter Bowden, published 27/3/2020

God does not appear to be looking after the welfare of those people who have chosen to support him.

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In a one line answer to the question, simple:-No

Armchair Critic just did a checkmate on OLO’s god authority ol’ OzSpen, well done AC.
Galen
Posted by Galen, Sunday, 29 March 2020 12:20:41 AM
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If there is a god, here he is.

The worlds best poet writes and sings another brilliant opus

http://youtu.be/3NbQkyvbw18
Posted by Galen, Sunday, 29 March 2020 12:46:50 AM
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How do you measure humidity? Measure tempature? Measure electricity?

If you tried to measure electricity by how hot or cold it is outside, then you would be at a loss of any reliable answers. Same as if you tried to measure the tempature by how humid it is.

Or if you are considering the difference between salt water and fresh water. Water that is hard water (ph levels), water that is unclean, compared to drinkable water, how do you measure these things? If you look at the wrong information that doesn't deal with what you are measuring and looking for, then you won't find anything that answers your search.

Know what your looking for and how to look for it before saying it is there or that it isn't there.
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The author of the article says he is convinced there is no God because:

1) he had never had any direct evidence that there was a god, nor had he met anybody who had such evidence.
2) the world is a mess
3) that throughout history the church opposes the good changes in the world,
4) the disagreement of social norms (homosexuality) from two Christian athletes.
5) A survey of 30 people, and the rise of people that don't believe in God measured through national polls.

Afterwards though Peter Bowden, gives a final challenge to check if God is real. Claims that Christians are immune from the Covid virus, and if God being annoyed by the article responds to the article Himself by having Peter stricken with the things in Armageddon.

The question from here is are any of these accurate? Are they a good measure of if God exists or not?

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Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 29 March 2020 2:39:37 AM
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To the 1st one, I have great doubts that Peter has never met someone who had evidence that God existed. In a culture that prides it's religous views as private views, you might never know the things God has done in another person's life, or the things they have witnessed.

To the 2nd one for the world being a mess, is that a promise that God would fix the world if He exists, or is the world a mess as a judgement from God on the sin and evil that exists in the world? Either case can be argued without even consulting what God would say in the matter. (To know the answer to what He would say would mean to consider any religion that claims to have heard from God, and judge those answers as potentially being from God).

Reason #3 is just false. There are many great things that have only occurred because Christians have promoted them. To say that the church opposes any good progress is just false.

As for the 4th and 5th, neither are a good measure of God but are more a measure of people. #4 though might be closer, but if the Christians that are outspoken against Homosexuality are correct and that is a good representation of God's views, then all that does is show that God's views are not in line with society's views. Even if they voted on them to show agreement.

I hope this is not too harsh of an answer to you Peter. But God is real. There is evidence of Him being real. Both powerful evidence in some people's lives (I've confident you've met some, but are just unaware of them), as well as logical conclusions based on the world around us. I hope you find Him. He's worth finding. If you don't find God, I still wish you well, and hope your life stays well and you stay safe.

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Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 29 March 2020 2:44:36 AM
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Believe it or not, even if you don't believe in God, He still loves you. Your post may or may not annoy Him, but know that if He can love a guy like me, then He loves you as well. I would not try to test that love by asking God to prove Himself by giving you an ailment in annoyance of your article.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 29 March 2020 2:45:27 AM
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Not_Now.Soon,

<<Reason #3 is just false. There are many great things that have only occurred because Christians have promoted them. To say that the church opposes any good progress is just false.>>

It is preposterous that Peter Bowden claims: <<throughout history the church opposes the good changes in the world>>

Historically, these are a few examples of Christians contributing to the good of society:

+ William Wilberforce and the abolition of slavery. http://www.christianitytoday.com/history/people/activists/william-wilberforce.html

+ Sir Isaac Newton: mathematician, physicist, astronomer and theologian. He is recognised as one of the most influential scientists of the scientific revolution, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton

+ Sir Cliff Richard, Christian rock singer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOMr4tGhzoM

+ Mother Teresa ministered among the poor in Calcutta, India: http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/9-things-you-should-know-about-mother-teresa/

+ C S Lewis who journeyed from atheism to Christianity: http://www.cslewis.com/c-s-lewis-as-atheist-turned-apostle/

+ General Eva Burrows of the Salvation Army: http://www.salvationarmy.org.au/about-us/news-and-stories/media-newsroom/passing-of-retired-general-eva-burrows-of-the-salvation-army-the-peoples-general/

+ I sponsor a 5-year-old in Uganda through Compassion International Australia, an aid and development organisation: http://www.compassion.com.au/

What a joke for the author to say the church opposes good changes in our world!
Posted by OzSpen, Sunday, 29 March 2020 1:18:26 PM
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