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Is there a God : Comments

By Peter Bowden, published 27/3/2020

God does not appear to be looking after the welfare of those people who have chosen to support him.

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As I said above, it's ridiculous for atheists to ask if there is a God when they have already decided that there is not one. If something doesn't exist why talk about?

Do they feel the need to defend their misbelief? A little guilt there, perhaps? Particularly when most people don't give a toss whether about their atheism, which they are perfectly entitled to.

Many of them complain about "Bible bashers", but they are no better, with their evangelising against God and the Bible. It doesn't matter what individuals believe or disbelieve, except to themselves. I'm agnostic myself, but believing of the Christian way of life. I do, however, find people who want to talk about the lack of a God a bigger pain in the arse than those who keep their beliefs private - no matter what they are.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 28 March 2020 11:34:42 AM
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I agree with the writer's confusion that God, as defined in his argument definitely does not exist. However, I have spent almost 20 years arguing that this is no the end of the matter. It tires me to repeat myself again, so just look at some of my posts on OLO for my arguments. Especially

https://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=20224

https://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=19410

https://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=17910
Posted by Sells, Saturday, 28 March 2020 12:56:24 PM
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Peter,

You have given up believing in god: <<probably the major reason was that he had never had any direct evidence that there was a god, nor had he met anybody who had such evidence.>>

What kinds of evidence do you accept?

What you have written in this piece demonstrates you refuse God’s answer. You are against God's revelation of the universe and against the revelation in yourself.

The strength of the Christian worldview is that everything in life fits under the apex of of the infinite personal God who exists, created the universe, and to whom all human beings are accountable.

I have not found any other system that has an apex where everything fits.

The revelation of the universe is clear according to Romans 1:19-20, “For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse”, http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1%3A19-20&version=NIVUK

God’s existence comes through exposure of all human beings to conscience according to Romans 2:14-16, “For when Gentiles [non-Jews], who do not have the law [of God], by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus", http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+2%3A14-16&version=NIVUK

If there is no truth about God, we have no hope. If anyone finds the body of Jesus, Christianity will be proved false. We are left with what the apostle Paul asserted, 'If there is no resurrection,... If I fought wild beasts in Ephesus with no more than human hopes, what have I gained? If the dead are not raised, "Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die"’ (1 Corinthians 15:29-31), http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Cor+15%3A29-31&version=NIVUK
Posted by OzSpen, Saturday, 28 March 2020 5:25:24 PM
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Sells,

Based on your comments in support of Peter Bowden's question, 'Is there a God?' do you want to hear what the Bible says about God's existence and the need for evangelism (Matthew 28:18-20) and seeking those who are lost (Luke 19:10), http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+19%3A10&version=NIV

Why don't you take the call of the Scriptures seriously in its assessment of the nature of human beings and their need of a Saviour?
Posted by OzSpen, Saturday, 28 March 2020 8:01:43 PM
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ttbn,

<<It is quite ridiculous to me that atheists keep asking, 'is there a God'.>>

I agree on one level but there are 2 other situations screaming at them about God's existence:

(1) The evidence in creation (Romans 1:19-20).

"The brain is composed of over 10 trillion different cells. These cells work together to send electrical impulses at a rate of 273 miles per hour (393 feet per second). Nerve cells in the body send 2,000 impulses to the brain every second. These impulses come from 130,000 light receptors in the eye, 100,000 hearing receptors in the ears, 3,000 taste buds, and over 500,000 touch spots. As this is happening, the brain does not move, yet it consumes over 25% of the body’s oxygen and receives 20% of all the blood that is pumped from the heart (which is pretty amazing, considering that the brain makes up only about 2% of the body weight of an average man)", http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=9&article=877

(2) The evidence from conscience (Romans 2:14-15), http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rom+2%3A14-15&version=NIRV

The atheists try to avoid these 2 demonstrations for the existence of God. When they avoid them, they keep coming back to accuse Christian believers when they should submit to the personal, eternal Lord God Almighty and Saviour of the world.
Posted by OzSpen, Saturday, 28 March 2020 8:14:11 PM
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Hey OzSpen,

How and why should:

1/ The existence of the human body's complexities, (as well as the complexities of all livings things) or;
2. The existence of a human conscience

- Serve as evidence for a supernatural creator of all things who watches over us and will judge us upon our death?

Also on the issue of conscience:
Why do Christians do things that harm others and do so in God's name?

Does putting themselves and their friends and family at risk of COVID-19 not go against ones conscience?

How do they bring themselves to do these things if they valued their conscience in they way you're saying that it has such importance to Christians and Christianity?

- I've shown that they fail to take precautions for themselves and their children against COVID-19, and promote an ideology that puts others at risk of infection by claiming God will protect his followers?

If YOU had a conscience, you'd respond to this issue and admit that Christians are putting others at risk of harm.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 28 March 2020 9:50:04 PM
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