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Wuhan, Hubei province and the COVID-19 : Comments

By Peter Bowden, published 11/3/2020

i made several trips to Wuhan, spending many weeks there. The purpose was to implement an Australian aid funded environmental clean-up program.

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One recalls how two courageous researchers in W.A. were pilloried from dawn to dark by the medical fraternity for daring to suggest that stomach ulcers were caused by a bug and therefore treatable with antibiotics. And this condemnation by big pharma's puppets in the medical fraternity (most of them), given at the time antiacids were big pharma's top moneymaker? And the howled derision continued until the researchers won a Nobel prize for medicine and for proving beyond a reasonable doubt, their theory.

This brings me to covid-19, Some doctors have it seems, been treating it successfully with antivirals, those that suppress HIV virus. On the understanding that a virus is a virus and an antiviral is an antiviral.

Certainly more productive than collecting and correlating statistics as an exercise in quarantine procedures. Better we never get nor spread this disease ad I for one would not go where Peter did to put himself and all he then had contact with, in harm's way. Some of which could lead to cross-contamination fatalities?

Peter makes some obvious points about personal hygiene and folks forced to live inside unventilated domiciles/rooms/workplaces, due to the daily pollution levels? Thereby assisting the breeding and cross-contamination of this bug.

Which could be treated with nuclear medicine as could anything else that make immune system antibodies?

And where an alpha particle, i.e., bismuth 213 is attached to the antibody and sent with it on a search and destroy mission and done in just over an hour, without harm to healthy tissues as occurred in numerous, reported cancer treatment trails, with bismuth 213! And with far less rads than a stock standard X-ray!

It'd be a huge comfort to overburdened health workers if they knew they could be treated time and again if they themselves fall victim to something someone like a nosey reporter brought back and unintentionally spread.

We don't have bismuth 213! No, we don't and only because the troglobites in charge won't lift their (coal protecting) ban on for peaceful purpose, nuclear power!

IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:18:26 AM
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Dear Comrade

Mate, stop being such a bloody snowflake. One mention of Trump and off you flounce in a huff. In truth it was pretty innocuous.

Your statement that " The last three cases in Victoria all came from the US. It may well end up being the world's primary 'infector' if they don't shape up.' is weird , extreme and downright silly.

Having a zero policy for Trump really doesn't help Australians. Perhaps you might reconsider it.
Posted by Aspley, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:23:48 AM
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You're all wrong, it's all Joh Bjelke Petersen's fault !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:30:07 AM
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The number of confirmed cases in Australia has doubled from 50 to over 100 in about 4 days.
What concerns me most it that firstly they ARE NOT testing everyone that has flu symptoms;
Right now they are turning many people away;
They're only testing people who say they've been to an affected country or had contact with someone who came from a seriously affected county.

So their response is inadequate, and the statistics and situation is likely far worse than reported.

They're deliberately lying, because they don't want to cause panic.
News reports are starting to become more serious now.
http://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/coronavirus-victorians-warned-to-brace-for-extreme-response-20200310-p548p6.html

Also you said 2 theories, but you mentioned 3.

"nearby government lab that studies dangerous viruses."

Now seriously people, if you do nothing else today then take the time to find out the whole story, they're lengthy videos, but at least people will stop talking rot, and we can all be on the same page instead of being fed crap.
It's the most informative stuff you're likely to listen to all day anyway so you may as well.

Coronavirus Event Creates Perfect Storm To Push Big Gov Agendas
http://youtu.be/Kw-mCm5jJyc

How The Coronavirus Is Being Used To Control You And Remove Your Rights
http://youtu.be/yVGXN6GR_PI

I'm watching the latest video from today
Iraqi Doctor Claims US Gov Sent Coronavirus Infected Hats To Iraq & NY Calls In National Guard
http://youtu.be/RotUBnivPrI

C'mon everybody, I don't post this stuff so you all stay dumb.
There's links in the video description (or the first comment) to show a source for every single thing discussed in each episode.
The corporate media will never give you these facts, they just tell you whatever and you're supposed to believe them.

- Get the facts -
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:53:32 AM
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China has a lot of issues, with pollution being only a secondary concern for the Chinese Gov. Their dominance of world manufacturing and energy use is the main issue for the rest of the world. Sanitation is critical around the world and even China is starting to grasp that. If that waste human sewage didn't fertilze crops, it would add further to China's river pollution.

However, Tbbn needs a wake up call, like most urbanites. Where do you think all the tonnes of wastewater sludge (sewage solids) go to? Yup 100% reuse on the soils used to grow our food! RIGHTLY and SAFELY so.

Also, all the pooh and slurry produced by cows/pigs etc... well that is often sprayed all over farmland as a natural fertilizer being full of phosphates and nitrates,.. the essential food for good crops!
Posted by Alison Jane, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 11:07:03 AM
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Dear Aspely,

You say: “Your statement that " The last three cases in Victoria all came from the US. It may well end up being the world's primary 'infector' if they don't shape up.' is weird , extreme and downright silly.”

Mmm. Okay, happy to tease this out.

After Wuhan, Iran and the Diamond Princess the other sources flagged were;

“39 cases are reported to have had a direct or indirect travel link to countries including the United States of America, United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom, Italy, Iceland, Singapore, Thailand, the Republic of Korea, Japan, Indonesia, Philippines, Taiwan, Cuba, Trinidad and Tobago, Nepal, Egypt, Austria, France, Spain, Hong Kong.”

The USA is at the top of that list because they contributed more infected travellers to Australia than any of the rest.

Yet there is no travel warnings in place for it, no self isolating requirements, it isn't even featured on the moderate risk list.

“The Australian Government considers the following countries to be at moderate risk for COVID-19:
Cambodia
Hong Kong
Indonesia
Japan
Singapore
Thailand
If you have recently travelled to these countries, monitor your health for 14 days after leaving that country. If you develop a fever or cough, seek medical advice urgently and isolate yourself.”

So should decisions be based on official figures from the USA or on the number of cases presenting to Australia. I would suspect the latter.

From the NYT.

“In California, where thousands are being monitored for the virus, only 516 tests had been conducted by the state as of Thursday. Washington health officials have more cases than they can currently process. And in New York, where cases have quadrupled this week, a New York City official pleaded for more test kits from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
“The slow federal action on this matter has impeded our ability to beat back this epidemic,” the official said in a letter Friday.”

Let's say you are the PM. It's your call, what do you do to protect Australians?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 11:40:35 AM
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