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Triumphal divisions: Trump's State of the Union address : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 7/2/2020

In this year of the presidential elections, President Donald J Trump shows little sign of cowering.

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Dear individual,

What? Respect his country's constitution, the rule of law and the checks and balances? Rather than being a partisan hack?

Naw, he isn't a loser at all.

The question isn't whether Trump did it or not, it is whether this was enough to see him thrown out. There will always be differing standards shown by politicians which is fine, that is why they are there, to judge these things as peers.

There is little doubt those standards have dropped considerably under Trump. But I do find him great entertainment.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 7 February 2020 11:56:05 AM
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Yep, the speech certainly was full of all sorts of boosterism and calls as to why the American people ought to be proud of their nation and its past and present. It reminded me somewhat of Pericles'/Thukydides' Funeral Oration; reminding a people battered by the recent past why they ought to have hope for the future.

Certainly a far-cry from the previous administration's constant apologies for the US's past. Perhaps that's why its so jarring for those of a certain bent.

But apart from the rhetoric there was a lot of fact to explain why optimism is justified....

"In just over two years since the election, we have launched an unprecedented economic boom, a boom that has rarely been seen before. There has been nothing like it. We have created 5.3 million new jobs, and importantly, added 600,000 new manufacturing jobs, something which almost everyone said was impossible to do, but the fact is, we are just getting started.
Wages are rising at the fastest pace in decades, and growing for blue-collar workers, who I promise to fight for. They are growing faster than anyone else. Nearly 5 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps. The US economy is growing almost twice as fast today as when I took office, and we are considered far and away the hottest economy anywhere in the world. Not even close. Unemployment has reached the lowest rate in over half a century. African-American, Hispanic-American, and Asian-American unemployment have all reached their lowest levels ever recorded.

Unemployment for Americans with disabilities has also reached an all-time low."

Little wonder that confidence in the economy is at levels not seen this century or that a clear majority favour Trump's handling of the economy.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 7 February 2020 11:59:05 AM
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Dear mhaze,

Oh come on, are you really going to contend it's all fair dinkum? We both know that has never been Trump's style.

Trump said; "I am thrilled to report to you tonight that our economy is the best it has ever been."

He has seen GDP figures between 2 and 3%.

Obama peaked at 5.5% and had 6 quarters above the best that Trump has managed in his 10 so far. Bill Clinton was also reeling off over 4% numbers quite regularly.

Most of it is crap, smoke and mirrors for the gullible. I enjoy the showmanship of it and the bluff and bravado but I'm not about to drink the cool-aid. Neither should you.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 7 February 2020 1:15:55 PM
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SR,

You never disappoint. Standard BS there. SOP from SR.

Take on throw-away line, interpret in a self-serving way and declare Trump a fraud.

"Best" could refer to any number of things - best stock-market, best for minority workers, best for manufacturing workers, best as compared to the major rivals, best for....

But SR decides it means this one thing and then runs off to find figures to dispute it. (Or does he find some figures, any figures, where things aren't 'the best' and then declare that to be THE interpretation).

But address the exceptional employment data? Nup, pass on that, eh, SR?

"but I'm not about to drink the cool-aid."

Well I recall how you fell hook line and sinker for the whole Russian collusion hoax, and the Ukraine hoax and the Trump as a warmonger idiocy. So I guess you've had your fill of cool-aid, n'est pas?

I think part of the Trump Derangement Syndrome is that he and his success keeps reminding those of a certain persuasion how very wrong they were about him and his policies. And that's an unforgivable sin.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 7 February 2020 2:43:05 PM
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Dear mhaze,

Well I admit that got a laugh.

So when Trump said “best economy” you are trying to make the case this means a whole bunch of other things. except how the rest of the world interprets it.

'Best against major rivals'? Lol. Nah.

Mate, defending your president is one thing, but mis-characterising his words is tantamount to blasphemy and you should think about your life choices. Runner will get you if you aren't careful.

As to collusion you got your arse repeatedly handed to you on that one. It was good fun tying you in knots. Perhaps we could do it again some time.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is such projection from the Trump cultists.

derangement n. 1. disturbance in the regular order or normal functioning of something. 2. loosely, mental illness or mental disturbance.

The mhaze of old wouldn't have had a bar of Trump. There certainly is a disturbance in the regular order of things and it is only going to get even more fun.

Thankfully when you lot are busily disavowing yourselves of him we will still have the public record.

Ah, good times indeed.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 7 February 2020 4:33:28 PM
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we know those deplorable women , blacks and hipsanics who are increasingly turning to Trump. You could certainly say that any decent person would not consider voting for the the nasty baby killing socialist who have had a 3 year temper tantrum. Lovely indeed to see the lying liberal media and hollywood deviants with egg all over their faces and yet they dig in more. Russia, Ukraine, what next?
Posted by runner, Friday, 7 February 2020 5:03:11 PM
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