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Australia’s greenhouse gas emissions strategy is a policy failure : Comments

By Chris Lewis, published 6/2/2020

One report notes that the UK’s carbon dioxide level, which reduced by 38% between 1990 and 2017, would have been four times higher if change had not occurred through political leadership.

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ALTRAV,
Are you really so delusional that you believe the climatologists were claiming it was the end of the world? If not, all that stuff about bankers is just a strawman. However It does serve to remind me that when you want to believe something (such as that the Rothschilds are evil) you're willing to accept any evidence (no matter how dubious) that supports your position, and reject any evidence to the contrary, no matter how strong.

When you're that impervious to reason, I can't really justify wasting my time arguing with you.
Posted by Aidan, Saturday, 8 February 2020 2:05:40 AM
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The score so far, sports fans.

Those claiming HIGW is real. Jamo, ateday, Chris Lewis, Alan B., Taswegian, Mr Opinion, and Aiden. 7 contributors for total of 19 posts.

Most prolific advocate for HIGW being real, Chris Lewis with 6 posts. You win for the Alarmists, Chris.

Those claiming that HIGW is pure BS. JBowyer, ttbn, Alison Jane, Bluebottle, runner, individual, Lego, hasbeen, and Altrav. 9 contributors for a total of 21 posts. (not counting this one)

Most prolific advocate for the sceptics, Bluebottle with 7 posts. You win for the Sceptics, Bluebottle.

Purely on a numbers count, the sceptics seem to be winning.
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 8 February 2020 5:00:32 AM
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To aiden, for thirty years, climatologists, their media echo chamber mates, and their leftist politician supporters, have made the most ridiculous claims of impending doom unless the western world mends it's evil ways, and somehow continues to exist without smelting metals, making concrete, or using fossil fuels. The arctic would melt and be gone by 2014 (it's still there), the polar bears would all drown (they didn't). 30 years ago, these same Alarmists predicted that low lying lands would be inundated by the sea, and even complete island nations would disappear beneath the waves in 30 years. 30 years later and nothing happened.

ALTRAV raised a valid point. If the massive real estate industry and it's financial backers (the really smart guys) believed in all the nonsense about HIGW causing oceans to rise, nobody could bet a home loan on any coastal real estate. But it is not only coastal real estate. Thirty years ago alarmists were predicting a 3 meter rise in seal levels by early this century. 3 meters would drown half of Europe, the USA and Australia. You would not be able to sell a single house in Port Macquarie or anywhere else along a beach.

The Washington Post. 2019 "AOC claims the world will end in 12 years unless we do something now."

Washington Post, 7 October 2018

"The world has barely 10 years left to get climate under control, UN scientists say."

Associated Press June 3 1989 Headline. UN Predicts Disaster If Global Warming Not Checked. "A senior UN official has said that entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by 2000."

The Canberra Times Sept. 1988. Maldives. "A gradual rise in average sea levels is threatening to completely cover this Indian Ocean nation of 1196 small islands within the next 30 years, according to authorities."

Maldives today.

http://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ACYBGNTr80q0S_mrMOyWSa3XGjTE0k81jQ:1579808176779&q=images+maldives+tourism&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjWr8KJvJrnAhWMf30KHWZRCnUQsAR6BAgKEAE&biw=2021&bih=1085#spf=157980817908
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 8 February 2020 5:23:58 AM
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Aidan, I'm merely quoting others, tongue in cheek.
As for the Rothschilds, I've been researching them for years, and you would not disagree if you too had done some work on them.
As for the climatologists and the end of the world, that is clear proof that you are quoting someone else, because I don't/haven't used the word climatologist.
I like shorter easier words or abbreviations.
So, sorry not me.
As for one of the most scum-bag families in the history of the world, the Rothschilds, have done too many evil, greedy deeds, all in the name of money.
I have come across too many things to know otherwise.
Here's one that just happens to be hanging around my bookmarks.

https://jdreport.com/complete-list-banks-owned-or-controlled-by-the-rothschild-family/

I didn't write this stuff, others did, so who am I or you, to disbelieve something if we don't have any proof or evidence to counter or debunk a proposition or story.
I'm absolutely taken aback that anyone would even THINK about defending such a disgustingly arrogant, greedy and evil family such as this, along with their other running mates of the Bilderberg Group.
Posted by ALTRAV, Saturday, 8 February 2020 5:38:49 AM
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Mr Opinion does not know.

1. The Earth warms and cools in regular, repeating, 1000 year cycles.

2. The last warming period was 1000 years ago.

3. This present warming period just happens to have coincided with the industrialisation of the human race.

4. Obviously, anthropogenic CO2 had nothing to do with hundreds of other previous, cyclical, warming periods.

5. 570 million years of global temperatures shows no direct causal link to known atmospheric CO2 levels.

http://www.researchgate.net/figure/Global-Temperature-and-CO2-levels-over-600-million-years-Source-MacRae-2008_fig1_280548391
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 8 February 2020 11:57:20 AM
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The commonality among skeptics is a belief that the world is not headed for a climate catastrophe. Other than that I think skeptics have quite a diversity of opinions. For example, I think ocean fertilisation research as a means of influencing rainfall worthwhile, whereas other skeptics think manipulation of the weather impossible, whilst catastrophists by and large think humans have meddled too much with nature and should leave the oceans in peace. I can't help but wonder weather the ocean fertilisation from the bush fire smoke has affected eastern Australia's rainfall.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 8 February 2020 12:07:24 PM
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