LEGO,
Your ‘answer’ was the US Forrest Service is in on the ‘Conspiracy’, in a country whose President thinks climate change is rubbish. Hmmm, yeah, great answer! (Face palms and shakes head!) I have tried.

Michael Mann’s hockey stick graph has been verified by countless studies from all over the world that study things like the MWP or RWP or whatever. The shaft has a few bumps on it, but none higher than the toe. I have tried.

Right now you’re siding with a Sci-Fi author rather than every National Academy of Science on the planet! I have tried.

And then you misquote me just for a rise.

> “You are admitting that Manne's infamous "hockey stick" is undergoing a makeover”

That’s it. I’ve tried to speak with you honestly but you’re intentionally misstating my arguments just to get a rise.

I’ve asked you to justify certain opinions like providing EVIDENCE that it’s all a Socialist plot, but … you think commenting on political sympathies somehow demonstrates the architects of the fraud in the SCIENCE? I have tried.

You’re too repetitive. Every time I see a bunch of your blah blah blah without a link to verify your opinions, I just sigh.

You’re too predictable, and are backing away from failed older arguments and are starting to rotate again. Then you become a sulky bitch if I don’t indulge you FURTHER and watch MORE of your crap!

Seriously, repeat yourself much? It got boring the first 20 times! Now I feel my IQ going down every time I click on the email and see it’s YOU that has ‘answered’. Except you haven’t. Again. I have tried.

Look dude, just sing “There’s no climate change!” 3 times, make sure to tap your ruby slippers together 3 times, and all your fantasies will come true. I’m done. You’ve BORED me out of bothering with you, you long winded repetitive tinfoil hat wearing looney.

Oh and every time science says something you don’t like, it’s a conspiracy. That’s LEGO’s LAW!

Better tighten that tinfoil hat!

Bye.

Lego, thank you.
I'm sure I'm not the only one to be relieved if Max has decided to move on.
What is not possible to explain sometimes is that we are not privy to the answers to questions some commentors ask, because we did not get the info from official sources.
And of course when we are faced with someone who is set in their beliefs, no amount of proof or links or evidence will satisfy because historically it has been demonstrated, just like Max, that the info will be rejected without question or assessment, because the intended recipient already knows it will not feed his mantra.
I started on the fence, with an un-easy feeling that something was not right.
I was right, as time went on and between me researching and others submitting information debunking GW and CC, the evidence against GW and the alarmist movement began to grow, until I was satisfied I was on the right track, and so can now say that this is all an elaborate scam.
I have not yet discovered the basis of this scam, but I am more than convinced that money is at the root of it, as it always is.
It has caused a big shift in world economics in many fields, not just automotive.
So whoever stands to gain from this huge international re-arrangement of the world and it's status quo, is/are the ones behind this huge fraud.

Hi Max.

Michael Creighton is a scientist with a degree in Biological Anthropology and he is also a very successful writer and film producer. In addition, he was summa cum laude in his university studies which altogether means he is a very, very, smart bloke. This very smart scientist no longer accepts HIGW and says that the main driver of climate change is the sun, that anthropological CO2 is not as important, and says he is no longer a "catastrophist." Which just goes to show that summa cum laude Biological Anthropologists and electricians are a lot smarter than Sociologists.

I informed you that Michael Manne's graph caused such a storm of scientific criticism so bad that the US government ordered the AIS to investigate, and the AIS found that Manne's work was deeply flawed. So flawed that the IPCC had to reluctantly drop it from it's prominent place as their icon. You then informed me that some alarmists had gone to work trying to "correct" Manne's "research" to try and make it conform to the hockey stick again. That means you are tacitly admitting that Manne's "research" is shonky at best, and calculated fraud at worse. I know that Sociologists don't do much maths, but you should still be able to put 2+2 together and get the right answer.

The entire US Forest Service is no more responsible for any HIGW disinformation put out by some of it's politically correct leaders than the entire Australian Institute of Criminally is responsible for one of it's papers written by some fool which claimed that ethnic crime in Australia was a figment of the public's imagination. Or that the entire Victorian Police are responsible for it's politically appointed Chief Commissioner saying in public that African crime was just media exaggeration. Or that the entire NSW Police force is responsible for it's former head, the politically appointed Commissioner for NSW Police, Peter Ryan, claiming that NSW Police's own statistics had proved that the crime, drugs, and gun ridden Vietnamese suburb of Cabramatta had exactly the same crime rates as leafy, middle class Mosman.

LEGO,

You spelt his name incorrectly. It's Michael Crichton, NOT Michael Creighton.

He is an Arts graduate. He has a Bachelor of Arts degree. Have a look at his profile on Wikipedia.

You are aware that Shadow Minister has been posting that Arts graduates are pedophiles?

If you think he is really smart because he has a BA then you must think that someone like me with a BA and 2 x MAs is an absolute genius. Thanks for the kudos.

Now run off and play silly buggers with Shadow Minister.

Mr Opinion, Michael Crighton graduated from Harvard in 1969 with an MD. He did work in hospitals during his Internship. He already had a Bachelors Degree in Biological Anthropology from Harvard. To graduate in Medicine, the student must complete Science.
He was certainly well qualified to expose the corruption of science as political powers sought to use it to follow their own ends.
His "Aliens caused Global Warming" from January of 2003 is well worth a read even if you do not agree with all that he says. Consider his discussion on how "passive smoking" became accepted as harmful.
Hopefully it would make you think more about how and why various scientific research projects receive such generous public funds to pursue ephemeral fantasies.

Jay Cee Ess,

You really need to get your facts straight.

1. His surname is not spelt Crighton. It is Crichton.

2. He obtained a Bachelor of Arts in Anthropology in 1964.

3. This got him into grad school where he obtained an MD in 1969. But he never practised as a doctor. He spent his life as a writer and film maker.

You have distorted the facts to suit your own agenda. Keep doing it and people will catch you out every time. Do you want to end up like another Barnaby Joyce?