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Bushfire Royal Commission battleground: fuel loads or climate change? : Comments

By Charles Essery, published 20/1/2020

Should CCCers be allowed to drive their agenda, then we will continue to be locked in a 'Groundhog Day' loop, just as we are with urban and rural water management.

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You don't need to burn it all, just the last 5 kilometers around the periphery of these noxious weed growing Feral pest harboring national parks.

With these buffer zones to stop the fires getting out into the real world, & the greenies can be left to kid themselves about the rest. Burnt every 3 years or so, & the rest naturally burnt every decade or so, & the country will be much better.

The other requirement is for landholders to get back the right to make their properties safe using their chosen method. Fire, bulldozer or axe, it must be a landholders right to tell greeny council bureaucrats to go to hell where their & their property safety is concerned.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 20 January 2020 10:30:00 AM
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A very succinct and accurate essay examining major factors in tackling bush fires. Firstly; congratulations to Ross Garnaut for being the ONLY expert to have a climate ‘prediction’ actually come to fruition! and what was that prediction? That Australia would suffer a bush fire in 2020 Hah!. The 2020 bush fire that has burnt out 1/9th the area of the 1978-79 bush fires.
Selective logging in national parks and reserves will result in the creation of a network of fire tracks sufficient for heavy vehicles access, at NO cost to government. Reintroduction of ruminant grazing in forests will result in lowering the fuel load again, at no cost to government.
The reduction/elimination of stultifying local government regulations will encourage ‘on site’ land managers, like the Taewegian farmers and braziers along the east coast and Western Tiers who successfully managed local bush until councils stopped it with resultant terrible fires.
The brain dead CCCr’s, greens and elites are already organised for the Commision and have already scored a ‘trick’, with PM Morrison already stating that the Coalition will ‘re-visit’ policy regarding emissions; effectively pre-emptying’ the commissions outcomes.
Those sceptical of CO2 being either the cause or even a contributing factor in the fires will need to organise immediately and harness all the scientific and experiential evidence to put before the commission.
Posted by Prompete, Monday, 20 January 2020 12:10:45 PM
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Hasbeen, yes the nearest 5 kms would work for humans.but if we continue to have fuel loads build up, it would not do much good for the animals and habitats, so we must have prescribed burning in native forest as well.

Also as Prompete states, selective controlled logging would introduce fire trails that would give access for more effective monitoring, management and controlled burning.

That way people would be happy, animals would be happy, but we would have to find an island somewhere which served 'smashed avo toast', skim soya milk lattes, and vegan burgers.

Anyone know anywhere or country would take them,.... maybe Mars on a wind powered, hemp space craft perhaps!
Posted by Alison Jane, Monday, 20 January 2020 1:06:51 PM
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gumption to put a proper bush fire mitigation and control regime back into place
ttbn,
Yet another perfect opportunity reason to establish a National Service or for want of a better description a Community service for the many unemployed & offer a once in a lifetime opportunity for many presently unemployable to become employable !
Posted by individual, Monday, 20 January 2020 1:06:56 PM
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Oh Dear; taking it all into account means it is totally useless
arguing about how co2 is the cause of everything.
The amount in the atmosphere that we put in makes no difference.
No difference to the temperature and no difference to the bushfires.
So why argue about it ?
If you want to argue about it go and knock on the doors of the US
Chinese and Indian embassys.
Best we can do is get the fuel load down in the bush.

There is even an argument that co2 can make little or no difference
but that has to be an argument for another time, after the big
emitters have cut down. We may be saved from having the arguement anyway.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 20 January 2020 2:22:56 PM
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My prediction is nothing of value will result from the expected bushfire royal commission.
It'd cost nothing to exclude private property from biodiversity and habitat preservation laws. It'd also cost nothing to admit the Australia Clause was a mistake. But it won't happen.

Individual and ttbn, yep, definitely problems where you mention. After the Dunalley fires here in Tas the situation is worse thanks to the new level of reactionary hyper risk aversion. Few will bother with fire permits when the permit period begins, which is increasingly too early and lifted always far far too late. When the permit period starts the smoke stops.

LEGO, indeed it is coming undone. Exquisitely revealing the HICC activists always propose more government.

Alan, Wethers thrive on burned country. It could be said much of Australias ride on the sheeps back was over burned ground. It requires active management of understory which is all but prohibited today. Autumn's about the best burning time to encourage growth of desirable palatable species over other types. It's part of why I'm so critical of the EPBC act. Under that law you're not allowed to alter the understory of any forest type listed as threatened, and the list is long and very dubious. A look at the forest types listed as threatened quickly reveals the whole process has been used to quarantine the largest area possible with forest types that aren't in any way rare or under threat. I've not looked at the mainland but here in Tas some of the most common forest types have been listed. On all tenures.

Alison, Share your hope but not holding my breath for a rational outcome. The slightly more left side are already staking their positions and the less left side in usual nervous managerial style will pick a position halfway between the nutcases and the rational.
Posted by jamo, Monday, 20 January 2020 3:18:06 PM
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