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Bush fires, Australia and climate change : Comments

By Charles Essery, published 2/1/2020

Climate change has reached cult status and with the lemming-like adoration of characters like Greta et al, backburning is judged only to increase CO2 and therefore to be outcast.

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Does A Tan really exist?

Are they a Russian/Northern Korean 'troll' or just the next generation of artificial intelligent 'bots', that act like a humans, but just have that missing element that gives them away as not being human?

If not, A Tan needs help to focus their mind on what's important about life on this small blue marble of a planet.

That's the question my wife and I ponder over our evening glass of wine.
Posted by Alison Jane, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 5:49:32 PM
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The rich didn't earn their wealth, Altraz. Their workers made the widgets.

Their workers deserve the proceeds more than a lazy fat cat who signs documents and eats lobster all day.

How much discipline is enough? Should a 12-year-old study for 20 hours a day? 16? 12?

If they don't have time to sleep, how will they be able to concentrate during their exams?

You sound like a child abuser. Do you know the best way to end child abuse?

A stab through the SSS SSSSSS. Instant end to the abuse.

Armchair, would you rather steal or starve?
Posted by AyameTan, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 7:19:20 PM
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Ayame, you have a problem, your rambling, and incoherent.
I would like to suggest, pick a point and go with it.
Right now you are commenting on entrepreneurs and your suggestions they are exploiting the workers.
Well if they were working for nothing, I would agree.
They get paid the amount agreed upon before they started working for the company.
If they did not like the pay or conditions, they MUST leave or they will not be happy working there.
What they can do also is ASK, (not demand) for a raise, if rejected, they also MUST leave.
It is insane people like yourself, who seem to think that you are not allowed to choose where you wish to work.
So if you accept the pay and conditions, you begin working for that company.
Where the f#ck do stupid people like you get off accusing a company of enslaving workers, in this day and age.
Now your other annoying beef, discipline.
What is it with you and discipline.
Yes we should have had more of it going back to the past, so we would not end up with sanctimonious, little smart arse, entitled, ignorant, arrogant idiots like yourself, continually getting it wrong.
How much study is enough?
Christ I don't know, as much as is necessary I guess.
What a stupid question.
Before you keep on about this question, I suggest you give us a little background on it so we know how best to answer it.
Otherwise, don't bother, it will be relegated into the bin of "how long is a piece of string"!
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 7:51:35 PM
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Ayame Tan,

Under no circumstances is it morally right to steal from anyone, be they rich or poor. It doesn't matter what you intend to do with the proceeds of crime, it is not morally right.
Those poor down trodden workers of yours making the widgets, if it were not for the "rich bastard" bosses that you despise, those workers would not have a job at all and no income.
It may surprise you, but scattered throughout Australia there are many businesses that struggle to make any real income for the bosses as all of the income not taken by paying for raw materials and utilities is required to pay the salaries of the workers. Often after paying significant Government fees and charges.
Under the socialist and communist Governments to date, there have never been any successful widget manufacturers catering for their own populations. The widgets that they have been able to manufacture and sell have always been copies of products developed in free enterprise capitalist systems.
The discipline that many people need to keep them heading in the right direction does not have to be literal punch or slap but may take the form of a metaphorical one. Sometimes needed to save a soul from themselves.
Posted by Jay Cee Ess, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 10:50:25 PM
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Why would I stick to a point when I've already addressed all your arguments?

Do you think minimum wage is fair for a sweatshop worker? Please read this article.

https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-forever-21-factory-workers/

They can only "get a better job" if they have the needed qualifications. But ANYONE can steal from an idiotic boss who wears a $50,000 suit.

Why is all you care about widget manufacturing? Isn't having a full belly more important?

JCS, it may not be "right" to steal from someone, but it is understandable if you're starving on the streets.

I guess 5-year-old African orphans should just die, correct?

Do you know the easiest way for ISIS to recruit killers? Poverty.

Google female suicide bomber.
Posted by AyameTan, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 11:02:52 PM
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Ayame, what do you want?
Do you want me to say that all the starving and poor people of the world should be ignored and let die?
OK, if that's what you want to hear, I'll agree, because there is NO WAY of helping these people.
It may come as a shock to you and any other jelly brains out there, but if they know that they are in dire straits, because they are so poor they have to rely on govt and foreign aid for food and whatever it takes to survive, then they have put themselves in this position, and should be left to resolve it.
Even if it means, and it will, that they will die, because of their stupidity to keep having kids, when they themselves admit they should not.
Nature is a cruel bitch, but it is what it is.
Under normal circumstances these people would die.
Keeping them alive is doing no-good to anyone, including them, because they know what is in store, and most of them accept it, because they cannot be saved, even with govt assistance and handouts.
So if left to their own devices, they would all be dead by now, that's nature, that is the natural course of events.
As for, is minimum wage fair for a sweatshop worker?
Well obviously it must be, to those working there.
It may not be to you, but that's none of your business.
I imagine if you went there and tried to convince them to leave, they would more than likely attack you and throw you out, for putting them at risk of losing their job by talking such nonsense.
They are getting exactly what they agreed on no more, no less.
It may not be to your liking, but until you put up the money and start up a sweatshop and take all the risks, shut up, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted by ALTRAV, Thursday, 16 January 2020 1:29:02 AM
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