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Medical opinion, torture and Julian Assange : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 24/12/2019

The conclusion was a recapitulation of previous findings: that Assange has been subjected to a prolonged, state-sponsored effort in torture, nothing less than a targeting of his being.

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Of course, the subtle implication here is, Assange is a journalist.

That point is unproved. At the moment Assange is a terrorist. A terrorist has little rights, and the State is not wrong.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 9:58:13 AM
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Before I believe any of this garbage, I'd want all the interviews and the claimed conclusions verbally tested via unbeatable space age lie detection.

Assange among other things is not known for his credibility and could've, with his IT skills, downloaded all the alleged symptoms then recreated them in himself as the actor he clearly is. All done to try and cheat justice.

Typical of a "man" who seemingly believes he is above the law and consequences for his actions ought to be shouldered by his many victims?

Let's dismiss all the BS and send this "man" to his deserved day in court!

Do the crime do the time!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 24 December 2019 10:12:47 AM
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Again, how does the US use US legislation to prosecute a person not
in their country when another person actually did the crime ?

Don't exceed 55 mph or you may be pulled over by the California Highway Patrol.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 12:42:20 PM
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Telling the truth is a crime?
Or only in your books.......
Posted by ateday, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 12:42:58 PM
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Couldn't have happened to a nicer con man.

Time the medical profession went back to treating chills & sore toes.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 1:44:37 PM
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Assange is no "Saint". For one thing, he was accused of several sexual assaults. We will never no the truth or falsehood of these things because it was never tried in court. So let's set that aside.
Yes, Assange put security/intelligence military people at risk. No question.
But it is also true that if a government wants to hide its dirty laundry from the public eye there is no better tool than the official secrets act.
The Vietnam war is probably now distant enough in time for most of us to realise that it was an immoral war, based on inane strategies for highly questionable goals and purpose. In short, the Australian and American people were screwed by their own governments. Not that I am claiming any moral high ground for the NVA. They were not out to help the Vietnamese people either. Both East and West blocks were engaged in global confrontation, it was never about the freedom of the Vietnamese people.
It is one thing to be a patriot, and another to be a mindless zealot.
I don't deny that Assange caused great harm. But he also gave us a glimpse of the ugliness, corruption, and even criminality that occurs behind closed doors and is normally unavailable to us to scrutinise.
So let us be a little less "All The Way With LBJ" and more sceptical. Not cynical, but sceptical. Chances are, if we don't have our politicians or generals coming home in body bags, just like normal private soldiers, then we might have an unjust war on our hands. Dead politicians or senior politicians does not automatically mean that we are in a "just war", but it certainly spreads the pain more evenly. To my mind nobody who orders people to war should stay in safety. Because they will seldom take responsibility for their actions.
Its just a thought.
Posted by Rob H, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 2:14:36 PM
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I wonder why the editor of the New York Times has not been prosecuted ?
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 2:57:32 PM
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You want the short version Bazz?
It depends on who you know, how much money you have, and whether you are one of the coll kids.
Posted by Rob H, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 3:01:52 PM
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Come on Rob, you've got to be kidding.

The intellectuals despise the workers, who are way beneath their dignity, & the Greens despise everybody, including each other.

All too many doctors are not that good at their day job, to have the time to involve themselves in matters beyond their expertise.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 4:52:48 PM
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Hasbeen....you're full of it"

The intellectuals may have little to do with the 'workers' and be somewhat indifferent due to the non association but that's a far reach to 'despise'
It's that sort of clap trap statement that doesn't help any progressive social understanding especially as intellectuals are also likely to be present in the ranks of the 'workers'

Now if you can't restrain yourself from uttering absurdities I suggest you shut up!
Posted by Special Delivery, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 10:20:58 PM
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Come off it Special Delivery, who the hell is it do you think, that wants to get the peasants out of their cars, & back on the bus.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 10:25:45 PM
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Assange should be tried by Australians if he's to be tried by anyone.
The 'mericans have got the Kardashians to keep them occupied along with a host of other banalities likely to see them into the next millennium.
Right or wrong it's about time Australia stood for it's own...or it stands for nothing
Posted by Special Delivery, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 10:28:10 PM
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He should be tried by those whose security was jeopardised by his idealism !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 25 December 2019 5:47:57 AM
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The article is based entirely on a false premise! His imprisonment was self-inflicted, not state-sponsored and therefore cannot be used to reduce any time still to be served! Torture is also self-inflicted as he sort to avoid the consequences of HIS actions!

This alleged sexual predator invades other folks privacy with impunity yet is outraged when his was invaded! And while he didn't know? And we saw him in his native habitat just being bail jumping criminal, unwashed, unshaven Assange.

This man is guilty of a number of crimes and alleged crimes in several jurisdictions. And every twist and turn by this grub has been aimed at simply avoiding facing the consequence of HIS actions!

None of his victims got any semblance of a break from this hacker and therefore he should receive the same level of pity and consideration he has shown others!

Forget the carefully choreographed, stage-managed BS and let this man face his accusers and the evidence!

Let him have the most robust defence money can buy, but not avoidance of his day in court!

Doesn't get fairer than that for him or for anyone else!

Do the crime, do the time!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 25 December 2019 10:18:33 AM
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'Do the crime, do the time!'

So does this apply to all or just the selected?
Posted by Special Delivery, Wednesday, 25 December 2019 6:15:16 PM
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For my friends...anything
for my enemies..there is the law

stick to thorium Alan
all else is above you
Posted by Special Delivery, Wednesday, 25 December 2019 6:20:33 PM
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Oh no ! Not another one ! Is there no break in the supply chain ?
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 25 December 2019 7:07:57 PM
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Who pays them ? Obviously the brainless are getting too much welfare.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 25 December 2019 7:17:42 PM
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Oops ! wrong thread, should be in 'Where are the Adults'
Posted by individual, Thursday, 26 December 2019 5:59:10 AM
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hearty har har individual
you've obviously never heard the proverb 'when you've got nothing to say, say nothing.....I suggest you try reading a book although your comprehensional skills may be a little short of the mark....try comics, they've got pictures.
Posted by Special Delivery, Saturday, 28 December 2019 6:00:10 PM
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'when you've got nothing to say, say nothing.
Special Delivery,
That's right, I totally agree ! When peoples' nerves are hit or when they don't have the mentality to understand, they come out with replies such as yours !
If nothing else, you can feel great comfort as being average of the indoctrinated masses.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 29 December 2019 6:06:04 AM
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