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20th Century’s new fascism : Comments

By Thomas Klikauer and Norman Simms, published 3/12/2019

Old and new fascism do not differ in their willingness to destroy the heritage of Europe's Enlightenment, along with its Kantian tradition of modernity.

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What is the word for a system that rewards effort & decency ? Democracy certainly doesn't !
Posted by individual, Friday, 6 December 2019 6:19:52 AM
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Some democrats would literally be suitable to be milked for their venom !
Posted by individual, Sunday, 8 December 2019 9:21:39 AM
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I agree with the article's general point about fascism being anti-modern, opposed to the humanist ethos of the Enlightenment, but I think the authors need to argue a case for fascism being opposed to 'ecology'. It has been the Marxist left, traditionally, that opposed Nature Worship and the Nazis that promoted it. A core outlook of the Hitler Youth League was 'the Religion of the Forests' and in Mein Kampf, in the section on 'Society and Nature', Hitler attacks the 'Judeo Bolsheviks' for being in the forefront of modernity. He expresses the view that everything started to go wrong when humans stopped living in harmony with the laws of nature. By contrast, Marx/Engels argued for the sovereignty of humans over Nature and Mao expressed it as a need for humanity to 'conquer' Nature. It's the exact opposite of how fascists idealized Nature. This is also why the Greens should be seen as right-wing.
Posted by byork, Monday, 9 December 2019 7:56:04 AM
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This is also why the Greens should be seen as right-wing.
byork,
Greens are extremists of wrong & as such fall into the category of Left-Wing !
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 7:20:34 AM
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Green's are not green. They are communists with green clothing- watermelons. Classic Trotsky strategy. Some on the so called right are for environmental protection some are not. What is called The Right is made of Traditionalists (believe in conserving things- especially culture) and Libertarians (believe in free trade- business). In the end it's the classic question on "what is legitimate power?".
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 14 December 2019 11:47:37 AM
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The reason that Traditionalists seem to be historically part of the "so called Right" is perhaps two fold 1. Traditionalists understand that the books need to be balanced in order for the community to function (though it is not their aim to make money necessarily). 2. Traditionalists are old power in some ways derived from aristocracy but with the rise of industrialism and the free marketeers became marginalised within the "power elite".

The old power elite was land and military based but with the industrialists power is factory and technology based.

The events of 1066 seem to be a mile stone on the path to Locke Liberalism where the parliament started to dominate the finances. It lead to disenfranchisement of lands and of the representation of the people within the country itself
Posted by Canem Malum, Sunday, 15 December 2019 9:47:04 AM
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