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Aborigines knew it was about management more than climate: an open letter : Comments

By Vic Jurskis, published 19/11/2019

An open letter to the Prime Minister, Premiers, Chief Ministers and Leaders of the Oppositions on fire management from an experienced forester.

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There were less than a million aborigines on the continent (around 750,000) in 1788. There are now nearly 26 million people Australians. That has to be taken into account. And, of course we can do something about the current situation: stop listening to eco idiots and climate frauds for a start. We need to get into their goldfish brains that "The current weather and wildfire situation is neither unprecedented nor unexpected".

"It's all about fuel, not climate". How many times do the idiots have to be told that!
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 8:24:12 AM
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Well said, Vic,

It's simply commonsense to get rid of the fuel in the first place, rather than trying to control its burning during bushfires.
Posted by Ponder, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 8:27:26 AM
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Aboriginal people used fire as an aid to hunting, not planned land management.
Fortunately this did result in removing build up of undergrowth and germination of some types of seeds but it is disingenuous to say their fires never got out of control and burnt huge areas of bush land.
My old inlaws told many stories of fires that got out of hand.
Posted by Big Nana, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 10:05:20 AM
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Sorry, have to disagree!

We've learned so much about how to effectively farm this land that we arguably lead the world in dryland farming practice!

One might also point out that we once believed the world was flat, BELIEF didn't make it flat!

Several primitive cultures traditionally used fire as a tool to assist hunting activities! Not understanding as they did so, they were destroying all the non-fire-tolerant species! As the smoke from those fires spiralled upward. It permanently removed scare soil nutrients and minerals!

The fossil record confirms with an indisputable record, this land was once covered from coast to coast in verdant forest! And that without question, "fire management" has destroyed most of it! Leaving baren arid landscape where the was once a forest that acted to recharge rain-bearing clouds!

In Zimbabwe recent trails that stopped fire being used in land management, replaced by concentrated herd grazing, complimented by overnight corralling of herds, turned a barren desolate drought-ravaged landscape into lush graze on vastly diminished rainfall numbers! Proving conclusively, that fire management can not be universally applied if applied ever at all!

I don't believe a primitive stone-age culture could ever know beyond question, they alone had and retain the best land management.

Sure they know everything about all the fire-tolerant flora and fauna that they weren't able to destroy with their stone age, primitive land management practises.

These very practises, coupled to routinely denied climate change, has dried out wetlands and rainforest alike, destroying in the process natural firebreaks! And guess what? Even now, these firebugs want to continue burning!

Fuel loads can be more effectively managed with cell grazing, whipper snippers and goats.

National parks they were routinely grazed had their fuel loads managed and had more eyes out there monitoring chance wildfires.

Fire can be used by terror cells or lone wolf operators to terrorize, kill and destroy property! Those who advocate it as a fundamental belief need to be very thoroughly investigated using covertly deployed, unbeatable, space-age lie detection!

Let's get the fundamentalists out and sanity back in!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 19 November 2019 10:19:37 AM
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Recent experiments with several fire-tolerant species have shown that backing can replace fire as a method to allow those species to germinate anyway without the disastrous consequences of fire!

I would think we've killed enough folk and species with fire that may have started as a cool burn!? But has gotten out of control with a sudden shift and or, increase in wind speed!

And hence as Big Nana observed. Alleged cool fires suddenly got hot!

Time to reflect on unintended consequences and adoption of a better and vastly saner, land management for the driest inhabited continent on earth.

Let me conclude for our Aboriginal Brothers and Sisters, I'm in favour of both a treaty and a bill of irrevocable human rights!

Moreover, some of my forbears come from an indigenous culture that was first among the first. So let's not start accusing me of racism or any of the other standard replies from the disgruntled!

No offence intended
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 19 November 2019 10:43:48 AM
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Fire commissioners have reported that it's not just the climate induced recent weather, but the climate change induced change in winter weather and rainfall that has caused the recent disasters. Deniers chant that it's simple and 'they' should just burn off the fuel load, but when can they? Even June and July this year would have caused runaway fires! Once CSIRO climate expert on Aussie fires predicted this situation 40 years ago.

“It seems obvious, but actually we found the correlation was not temperature and fires, but relative humidity and fires. Temperature goes up, it gets drier, and then the fires go up,” says Beer.

https://tinyurl.com/wn5e6qc
Posted by Max Green, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 10:56:16 AM
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