I burst out laughing at Mox's claim that Bernie Sanders would have beaten Trump.

Trump beat 19 Republican candadates for nominee, and he was the only one who the republicans refused to endorse. When he beat them all, they and the pollsters all agreed then claimed that he could not possibly beat Clinton.

After beating Clinton, we had the a series of preposterous claims of Trump being a Russian agent, and other such incredible nonsense. Why don't you lefties just admit that you have lost the working class and the lower middle class? You spent all your time demonising these two classes and talking down to them, and then you wonder why they voted against your elitist candidates?

Clinton's "Deplorables" quip was her undoing. It will go down in history of what not to say if you want to win an election.

The only policy the Dems have is "We hate Trump, we hate Trump, we hate Trump". Trump will win in 2020 because the Dems have lost it completely. Their candidates now appeal only to the lunatic fringe, and those who want the State to give them everything for free. The last Democratic conference was more interested in gender specific pronouns than anything that would appeal to voters.

I can't wait to see the ABC news after Trumnp wins again. They will look even more miserable than when Scomo won.

It is exactly as the Chinese say. "Third generation no good." Young people today are more concerned with virtue signaling than looking at real issues that will affect their countries stability and prosperity. That comes from living in prosperity for a couple of generations, and just taking prosperity for granted

"Former US president Barack Obama has warned the Democratic field of White House hopefuls not to veer too far to the left, a move he said would alienate many who would otherwise be open to voting for the party's nominee next year.

Though Mr Obama did not mention anyone by name, the message delivered before a room of Democratic donors in Washington was a clear word of caution about the candidacies of Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.

The two have called for massive structural changes — and in Sanders's case a "revolution" — that would dramatically alter the role of the government in people's lives.

The centrist wing of the party has warned for months that a far-left nominee could alienate the moderate Republicans and independent voters needed to oust President Donald Trump....”

from Australia's ABC on 17 November 2019 at http://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-17/barack-obama-issues-warning-to-democratic-presidential-hopefuls/11711950