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Ayers Rock: closing the climb : Comments

By John Perkins, published 24/10/2019

The climb should not be banned. To pretend that their myths are true, does not benefit the Anangu. It divorces them from reality.

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Nobody has decided what faith-based, inculcated from birth, belief you adhere to! And applies to all Australians, many who have equal myth and fantasy as their basis for religious practice!

So, to select one of the oldest and most enduring spiritual belief systems and ask that they should abandon that in favour of more modern fantasy based belief, is bigoty loaded discrimination! And should be tossed into the garbage bin where it belongs!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 24 October 2019 7:49:21 AM
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As long as we don't have to make up the fall in revenue, who cares!
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 24 October 2019 8:16:04 AM
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The spiritual beliefs that may or may not underly the decision to ban the climb are not a relevant consideration here. As a legal consequence of the Hawke government's 1985 decision to hand Uluru back to the tradititional owners, the Anangu are the legal owners of Uluru. It's their rock, their rules
Posted by JBSH, Thursday, 24 October 2019 8:52:06 AM
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Leaving aside everything else Mr Perkins, it is their bloody land.

Many people driving to Uluru, yes Uluru mate, mistake Mt Connor for 'the rock'. Lots of people inquire at the roadhouse about climbing it. They are promptly told no, it is on private property and although a tour company, the only one permitted access, can take you to its base, the owners have forbidden people climbing it.

Now when I first read your bio and seen you are of the Secular Party I thought perhaps you were just being consistent. After reading the article I am not so sure. So how about you go and clamour for public access to the quite significant geological feature of Mt Connor as well. Then I might have a little more regard for your position.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 24 October 2019 9:00:52 AM
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Hi SR,

You beat me to it: it's their property, they can do what they damn-well like with it, and nobody else can intrude on those standard, English-property-law rights, any more than anybody can intrude on anybody else's property, or, by the sound of it, even Mt Connor - since it's in a national park ?

Why not just sit back a few miles and admire Uluru in all its glory ? It's been here for thousands of times longer than any human being has.

As for the pseudo-religious aspects, I'm not a Catholic or even a believer, but I would never clamber all over St Paul's Cathedral in London, or St Peter's in Rome, or the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul.

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 24 October 2019 9:37:49 AM
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This bit of diatribe is what I brand as "secularist graffiti ".

I could tear the crap in Perkins article apart with my eyes closed, but others are doing a good job.

But a couple extra points; Aboriginal culture is Pre-literate.
Could I suggest Perkins take a trip to the Standing Stones Stonehenge, and suggest the building of a viewing platform with a chair lift on the top of those.

It was only a few thousand years past in our Western heritage culture, we were in exactly the same position as our Aboriginal culture has been set in to this day: Pre-Literate.

In that era, information was passed down in exactly the same way used by Aboriginal culture; a memory code.

Also, this situation is not in the same argument zone as the modern day trend among land councils, of extorting money for authority to transgress sacred sites with development projects.
Much of this is built on principles of blatant plunder and greed.

Another historic point to consider, is the treatment of North American Aboriginals who were mercilessly driven from reservation to reservation as consequence of similar arguments Perkins uses here.

Tourists don't and should not rule in this case.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 24 October 2019 10:25:31 AM
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