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Understanding the Greta Effect : Comments

By Mal Fletcher, published 2/10/2019

The Greta Thunberg effect is, like most large-scale movements, partly a result of the right person and the right cause converging at the right time.

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One can and does understand the so-called, Greta effect!

But not the Mal effect that seeks to put this young person under some analytical microscope!

As a perceived instrument with which to dismiss or minimise her claims and concerns!

Seeks to set her and generation Elder in two different camps when only about 4% of us are vociferous climate denialists!

Air sovereign risks concerns pertaining to taking timely and adequate action while typically, adroitly ignoring the much higher and very real cost (exponentially rising) of not doing anything or very much!

Some attention has been focused on the fact she has asbergergers?

So also did Einstien and dozens of contemporary geniuses throughout the length a breadth of recorded history!

Time to stop observing the young lady as if she were some interesting specimen or a goldfish in a bowl and start advocating for/listening to and acting on the message she so ably presents with regard to her and her generation's future!

It's not as if there were plenty we couldn't do if we wanted/were permitted to!

Or that any of them would harm either the threatened enviroment or a tanking economy! But very much the exact opposite, if we the people reclaim our heritage, then with the help of cooperative capitalism and endless social credit! get what needs to be done, done even as a few old demented troglodytes raise the roof with their vociferous if quite insane Unka McDuck objections!

And sob, with unmitigated rage, as they realise a lifetime's ambition to become the richest cadaver in the graveyard!? Has been curtailed and or, circumvented!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 2 October 2019 11:22:07 AM
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Only those with not much between the ears could pay any attention to the ranting of a still wet behind the ears school child, who can "SEE" CO2 for gods sake.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 12:33:11 PM
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There's nothing to understand about hype. Just look at the protesters in Hong Kong. Climate change is the last thing on their mind.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 7:15:55 PM
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Apparently the 16 year old climate activist is mentally
ill, not cheerful enough, and being manipulated by her
parents. So say her critics.

Lets look at the facts:

On September 23rd Greta Thunberg - a 16 year old climate
activist and contender for the Nobel Prize spoke at the
UN Summit where in a stinging speech she exhorted officials
to do something about climate change.

It was the kind of speech that is perhaps destined to go
down in history among other calls to action.

She is also correct.

The world might not look like a scene from Mad Max where
we are, but that does not mean climate change is not already
devastating people around the globe. And yet for some strange
reason a young woman pointing out unpleasant truths and
asking officials to step up and take steps to save our
planet is exceptionally triggering to largely older white
men on the right.

And boy - are they flailing in their attempts to respond.

"This is child abuse. Greta is being cruelly manipulated by
her parents. She's mentally ill. She's a brat..." And so on.

In the meantime she has rallied millions around the globe.
And influenced the political landscapes in Austria, Germany,
and Europe.

Bravo!
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 7:25:10 PM
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The Greta effect is just that an effect. Its Hype, Marketing, Self-promotion of an idea (which still remains a theory now as it was when first proposed by Plass back in 1956). It may give you an elitist, warm feeling to be led by the " Jesus-like" Reincarnation (yes ...CNN prime time host 2 weeks ago). Climate change cultism is just that, its no more than a smoke and mirrors scheme, a Ponsey scheme for some, and the best modern-day example of the "Emperors New Suite of Clothes". Love this stuff if you must, but rather than falling for hype, spend some time reading the science (not IPCC reports and climate models predictions).Climate models are still simple tools, attempting to model a theory, but the IPCC et al present them as "fact producing machines", which they are not. That's hard work, so most will fall back onto the story they want to here... Man is bad, Mother Earth is good, Gai will kill us all in the end... whatever, a they say these days! The Nobel circus has given peace medals to some of he world's 'best' terrorists, a President-elect before he was elected... so why not a child puppet who climate change cultists and the media adore!
Posted by Alison Jane, Thursday, 3 October 2019 7:22:29 AM
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Hear, hear and well said Foxy! More power to your pen!

Those troglodytes unable to comprehend real science and able to get their airheads out of whatever warm and comfortable position they have placed them, (probably some south of the lumbar-sacral junction? And so far up to be almost irretrievable? And I know you know what I mean.

They may finally be able to straighten up and observe the incontrovertible evidence of manmade climate change and given, as rich fat old farts, responsible for the overwhelming bulk of it in the greed is good, I'm all right Jack, paradigms?

And as they only represent some 4% of us, their views and vociferous opposition and pernicious propaganda can just be ignored as the sane middle just elbow them and their pomposity and phony concerns out of the way! And when we're done, have a better more robust economy as part of a sane solution, even if that requires more equitability and a new generation better off and more prosperous than those who preceded them!

There's absolutely nothing to fear economically in addressing climate change!

Just the very opposite for the sane 96% of us that now understand we did it and we can undo most of it!

Sadly, we can't save all of it! But a lot more than the doomsayers predict! But only if we act now and with urgent alacrity!

Cause as Forrest Gump would have put it? Stupid is as stupid does!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 3 October 2019 10:59:24 AM
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she has rallied millions around the globe.
Foxy,
When she can do that by convincing people to curb their excesses, particularly the uneconomic academic elite then I might get interested.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 3 October 2019 12:48:20 PM
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MEDIA ALERT...CND NUCLEAR WARNING.... hide under the table/bed/ closet under the stairs

Putin has just criticised Greta the untouchable angel/saint/"Jesus Christ" (according to CNN) sent os us from GAIA to flagellate us all. As we said in Belfast during the troubles, once the Dutch,German French and BBC journos booked into the Europa Hotel (one and only 5star hotel in Belfast in he 1960/70's) Stay and home and watch the TV... cos when they arrived, we were all into a "reality Tv show" before that term was even a twinkle in a Gen-Y-X producers eye!

Putin must be feeling attention deficit disorder in the media bubble. Please PM Putin, don't hand these cultists a "hostage to fortune"
Posted by Alison Jane, Thursday, 3 October 2019 3:40:11 PM
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No more news on the kid, has the Snowflake melted ?
Posted by individual, Sunday, 6 October 2019 6:28:40 AM
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My partner "sees" dead people, but then again she works for the Coroner. Greta Thunderpants "sees CO2" & unfortunately she is yet another stooge for the alarmists scamming more $ off the unsuspecting fools who listen to her Henny Penny rantings. More rare species of avians daily being clobbered into extinction by wind turbine blades across Europe, Asia, USA & here in Oz...but once again green...sorry did I say greed ? is good, especially when you can effectively brainwash & fool a whole generation of young impressionable minds with propaganda. Hitler, Goering & Goebells would be cheering! Pity she wasn't of the calibre of Anne Franks circa WW2. David Bellamy sacked from various conservation groups he formerly headed because he doesn't subscribe to the new regimes dogma. Funny though how several mates of mine from Army days at ANARE are now sending high res images of "unusually thick pack ice" in Antarctic waters. Hmmm - a bit like DePont de Nemours funding the research into holes in the ozone layer when they knew their patents on the CFC/Halogen family of refrigerant gases were coming up. Et viola we had the newer HCFC's then more recently the ones based on butane/propane mixture. Nothing new here...move along, nothing to see.
Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Monday, 7 October 2019 9:47:17 PM
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How did Greta get to the UN?

Surely not in one of those fossil fuel gulping jet airliners, spewing pollution in the sky.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 9:04:28 AM
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Dear Alison Jane ,

You extol people to “spend some time reading the science”. I have and that science says that CO2 is a significant greenhouse gas and that by increasing its concentration we are warming the planet.

So what science have you read that allows you to ignore the physical properties of CO2 in order to accept that increasing the concentration of this significant green house gas by a third has had no impact on global temperatures?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:29:44 AM
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Surely not in one of those fossil fuel gulping jet airliners, spewing pollution in the sky.
is Mise,
I understand there was a huge hoohah about her sailing there (see no oil used) but flew back.
The boat was most likely fibreglass. She's too young to realise how she was manipulated by the hypocrites.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:25:14 PM
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I never understood why this was a big deal. It's not a scientist that spoke up, it's a kid. This is just a publicity stunt and that's all. Done and done, ignore it because it doesn't matter any more then when a politician takes a photo shoot near a hospital or a school.

The real issue here isn't global warming, but that the UN is used for a publicity stunt. Not that I hold the UN in good standing any more, but seriously, are they just advertising that they have no scruples anymore? Pay enough for a publicity stunt with the UN as part of the headline and it's all good? That should be the real take away. Gretta has no authority or influence to say global warming is real or it's false any more then the next guy on the street you run into can. What she says doesn't matter. But the UN can be bought, and doesn't mind advertising that through global warming publicity.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 5:24:33 AM
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