Assange is an egotistical nutcase, probably autistic, certainly not a nice person, who js getting too much publicity.

During the Trump campaign, Mr Trump publically avowed he loved WikiLeaks. Now he wants to shut RUSSIAN OPERATIVE, electoral interfering, Assange down along with any compromising evidence that may negatively affect his reelection campaign? OR EXPOSE THE FACTS AND THE MOUNTAIN OF LIES.

As they say, be careful what you wish for, Donald!

Who has the right to invade and expose the private musings of candidates or ambassadors!? Nobody! Unless there is a bonafide case to be made in the interests of national security!

Yes, hero to zero, Assange initially exposed some war crimes, that will never ever be punished, just covered! With a lot of loud trumpeting from the most powerful military on the planet!

They patently no longer respect international convention nor the rules of war? But then who does?
Alan B.

Elsewhere on these pages I've been trying to explain to all and sundry that Assange/ Wikileaks weren't being pursued for publishing Bradley Mannings stolen documents, but for allegedly participating in the theft ie that publishing stolen documents isn't a crime.

Hopefully, following this court case and article, others will now accept the accuracy of that.

OTOH, I'm a little disappointed that this case failed to proceed. Had it done so, the defendents would have had the chance to demand access to the DNC servers to verify that the data was actually stolen by Russians.

Because, despite the volumes that have written on the issue, there is actually no evidence that the Russians were involved. For reasons that are utterly bewildering, Mueller and his cohorts declined to examine the servers and merely took the word of the DNC that it was the 'Ruskies wot done it'.

There is at least some evidence that it was an inside job, a whistleblower, who took the data and passed it to Wikileaks. It would've been nice to get a little closer to the truth of that.

Rather than be led by the nose by Binoy's predictable leftwing academic sympathies for Assange/Wikileaks

it pays to study the much more thorough Four Corners investigation of the Russian intelligence-Assange contacts on Russia stealing the private files of the US Democratic Party (DNC files).

And then looking at the provision of said files by Russian Military Intelligence (GRU) to Assange/Wikileaks.

Click on "Transcript" left bottom of Hero or Villain: The United States vs Julian Assange (part 2) Four Corners http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/hero-or-villain:-part-2/11363888

"...GRU, established a secret cyber operations unit. In April 2016, the [Russian Intelligence] hackers attacked the democratic national committee and stole 10s of thousands of emails.

...REPORTER: [Russian Intelligence] established a website called DC leaks to begin publishing the emails and in an attempt to cover [Russian Intelligence's] tracks created a new online persona called Guccifer 2 point 0.

...REPORTER: WikiLeaks wanted whatever [Russian Intelligence's front website] Guccifer had. Correspondence revealed in the US indictment of the [Russian Intelligence] hackers, shows that on June 22nd [2016] WikiLeaks sent [Russian Intelligence front website] Guccifer a private message on Twitter:

[Wikileaks, under Assange's control, said] "Send any new material here for us to review and it will have a much higher impact than what you are doing."

SCOTT SHANE NATIONAL SECURITY REPORTER, THE NEW YORK TIMES:
WikiLeaks was there for [Russian Intelligence]. it was a huge boon to distribute those emails [stolen by Russian Intelligence] through WikiLeaks which had a sort of established audience in the millions around the world."

Naturally leftwingers round the world side with Assange/Wikileaks/Russian Intelligence...

Oh well. Non-Russian democracies around the world will see how Assange explains it all in the US court system.

Pete, for all your supposed evidence, here are some facts.

Two highly respected and retired NSA former Directors undertook a forensic examination of the purported ‘hack’ of the DNC servers. Their scientific conclusions clearly demonstrated there was no ‘hack’.

The information was clearly downloaded onto an external drive (most likely a USB) and most likely given directly to Assange, probably by Seth Rich (conveniently for the DNC, now deceased in mysterious circumstances). There could not have been a hack because insufficient time was available to do it via the internet and additionally time stamps on the data showed it had been manually downloaded.

There goes the magical Russian hack and the entire fiasco that has been Russiagate.

Giday Galen

Yes its quite possible an AGENT of RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE "downloaded [the DNC files] onto an external drive (most likely a USB) and most likely given directly to Assange."

It is also risible that Assange/Wikileaks decided to embugger the US electoral system by document dumping/publishing the DNC files stolen by RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE.
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The SETH RICH myth is an intentional Assange/Wikileaks' distraction

Click on "Transcript" left bottom of Hero or Villain: The United States vs Julian Assange (part 2) Four Corners http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/hero-or-villain:-part-2/11363888 and it yields

"REPORTER: While in Washington it was now widely accepted that the Russians had been behind the DNC hack, Assange refused to be drawn on his source. Instead Assange chose to cast more shadows. He implied the source might have been a young DNC staffer called SETH RICH who had been murdered in a suspected late night robbery.

SCOTT SHANE NATIONAL SECURITY REPORTER, THE NEW YORK TIMES: I mean he was all but naming SETH RICH as his source, and I saw that as completely underhanded and really kind of cruel to SETH RICH's family. I think he was just trying to protect his own reputation by refuting, using Seth Rich to refute the idea that he'd become a sort of witting tool of the Russian state."

Onya Pete!

It needs to be told like it is not as the Russian operatives in our midst, would have us, the brain dead and the world believe!? As usual, your intelligent research is impeccable!
Alan B.

" SETH RICH who had been murdered in a suspected late night robbery."

Yep, a robbery where nothing was stolen. Well except for a life.

The truth is we don't know the truth. Had the DNC server been examined by the authorities we might know a lot more. But all the relevant agencies, including the special prosecutor, have shown a distinct desire to not know the truth about the server.

By now it will have been either thoroughly destroyed or utterly bleached so we'll never know. I suspect there are many in the deep state and the DNC for whom that is exactly the way they want it.

Still, maybe Barr knows a lot more than he's letting on just yet.

Thanks Alan B.

Yours is the praise that keeps me writing.

Have a good weekend.

Pete

Pete,

You have provided no evidence except someone else’s opinion it was the Russians.

The true evidence clearly points toward an inside job with no Russian links

Additionally, Assange stated clearly on numerous occasions he did not get the data from a State or one of its agents. This kills the Russiagate fake news.

You may not like Assange or Trump or Putin but for goodness sake stick to the evidence and facts. Same to you Alan B, no point patting someone on the back when they have provided no conclusive evidence or proof of anything.

Pete, Alan B, real facts:

Last Tuesday “Judge John Koeltl of the US District Court for the Southern District of New York delivered a devastating blow to the US-led conspiracy against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.

In his ruling, Judge Koeltl, ...dismissed “with prejudice” a civil lawsuit filed in April 2018 by the DNC alleging WikiLeaks was civilly liable for conspiring with the Russian government to steal DNC emails and data and leak them to the public.

The decision exposes the Democratic Party in a conspiracy of its own to attack free speech and cover up the crimes of US imperialism and the corrupt activities of the two parties of Wall Street. Judge Koeltl stated.

The ruling exposes the illegality of the conspiracy by the US government, backed by the governments of Britain, Ecuador, Australia and Sweden and the entire corporate media and political establishment, to extradite Assange to the US, where he faces 175 years in federal prison on charges including espionage.

Judge Koeltl said the DNC’s argument that Assange and WikiLeaks “conspired with the Russian Federation to steal and disseminate the DNC’s materials” is “entirely divorced from the facts.””

So much for your facts Pete.

1. Kampmark constantly complains about his idol Assange coming to justice.

But its only fair. Saint Julian of Wikileaks systematically enticed people, like tranny Manny, to pass confidential information from democracies to Wikileaks. Like a spoilt child Assange wanted to hurt the parent countries that raised him.

In doing so Assange-Wikileaks has favoured the position of Russian and Chinese dictatorships. Wikileaks has published very few documents revealing Russia's and China's vicious human rights abuses.

Now why is that?

So Wikileaks document dumps have been repeatedly aimed at Democracies - to the tune of around 10 million confidential documents published (see the first para of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks ).

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2. More on WIKILEAKS and RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE

Well Wikileaks had its own pet spy - Ex CIA/NSA agent Edward Snowden forming a franchise of Wilileaks to hurt our democracies.

Snowden defected to Russia with many 1,000s of western Top Secret documents.

Snowden supplied and published these documents in 2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks#2011%E2%80%932015 via Wikileaks with the permission of Snowden's host, Russian intelligence.

Russia still looks after its Wikileaks franchisee Edward Snowden.

Pete,

I see that now I have debunked all of your fake evidence re Assange and the Russiagate fiasco you have shifted to slandering Snowden.

You seem to forget Snowdens’s data was published by the Guardian newspaper, doesn’t this make them the Russian stooge then?

All Snowden released were the blatant lies and criminal behaviour of the Pentagon and US government in spying illegally on the US population at large.

You would think your failure to address my fact based posts would be enough, but no, you then shift gears onto another conspiracy theory.

Don’t you appreciate freedom of a robust democracy, free press and the rule of law. Obviously not.

Put up or shut up.

Well Galen, or should I say Binoy Kampmark

You'll just have to worship Julian less and think for youself.

Cheers

Pete

Hmmm

"Galen"

having a special cache in the INDIAN and Pakistani Urdu (language)

and in Gujarati (an INDIAN language, region and ethic group) on the

INDIAN subcontinent?!

Pete,

So you have failed to address any of my facts and now you resort to an Ad hominem attack, pretty poor.

Oh and I used the name Galen from here:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galen

Galen of Pergamon was a Greek physician, surgeon and philosopher in the Roman Empire. Arguably the most accomplished of all medical researchers of antiquity, Galen influenced the development of various scientific disciplines, including anatomy, physiology, pathology, pharmacology, and neurology, as well as philosophy and logic.

A useful source on the Assange thefts is Four Corners “Hero or Villain: The prosecution of Julian Assange (part 1)” Reported by Michael Brissenden, 22 July 2019. At http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/hero-or-villain:-the-prosecution-of-julian-assange/11336068 scroll down to “Transcript” at bottom left. Here are some excerpts:

"P.J. CROWLEY, U.S. ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE FOR PUBLIC AFFAIRS, 2009–2011:
I don't see Julian Assange as this great crusader of transparency. I see him as a reckless narcissist.

P.J. CROWLEY, ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE FOR PUBLIC AFFAIRS, 2009–2011:
I mean, just dumping hundreds of thousands of documents into the public space, that's not whistle-blowing to me.
A whistle-blower is someone who knows the information, understands it, and then can make an informed judgement that the compromise of that information, the benefit of that outweighs the risk and the harm. Julian Assange was in no position to make that judgement.

ADMIRAL MIKE MULLEN, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE:
Mr Assange can say wherever he likes about the greater good he thinks he and his source are doing but the truth is they might already have on their hands the blood of some young soldier or that of an afghan family.
Disagree with the war all you want, take issue with the policy don’t put those who have put themselves in harms way, further in harms way, just to make a point.

P.J. CROWLEY, US ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE FOR PUBLIC AFFAIRS, 2009-11:
[Assange] doesn't know. We can tell you that peoples' lives were uprooted. People were jailed.
There are people who were subject to these reports who are now dead. Now, were they killed because of the leak? I can't say that.
Were they killed because of what they were doing that came to the attention of another government? Quite possibly.

But those are facts. There was real harm to real people as a result of what WikiLeaks did."

Pete,

You can put up peoples opinions, this does not make them facts.

A recent analysis of Wikileaks data released has shown to date no injuries or deaths resulted from the information released.

Look, I don’t like Assange or Wikileaks for that matter, however if people fail to look at information logically and honesty, then it is pointless making inferences when the information is flawed from the start.

You might also want to be careful quoting Mike Mullen, he has been caught out telling red faced lies to the media and US government oversight committees re civilian deaths in both Syria and Afghanistan whilst he was in command of various special forces in these operational areas.

Nice try, but a fail again.

Contact with Wikileaks left Manning out to dry.

Contact with Wikileaks is a life sentence for Snowden (in cold authoritarian Russia or out of it).

But Assange will get off in 2025, pardoned when Trump leaves office, if not sooner.

Pete,

Again your logic is incorrect.

Both Manning and Snowden knew exactly what they were undertaking and the risks/results from which such action would result. Both intelligent people.

Blaming Assange or Wikileaks is like blaming the cart after the horse has...well you should know the remainder, or aren’t you that bright?

Thankyou Galen

My day would not be complete

if you did not respond (like Pavlov's little puppy)

to each and every one of my sage comments :)

Cheers

Poida

Would you believe WIKILEAKS THREATENS COURT ACTION - ATTEMPTING TO CENSOR JOURNALISTS' FREEDOM OF SPEECH

In a move to prevent real journalists from doing to Wikileaks what Wikileaks does every day to Democratic governments, January 7, 2019 http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/wikileaks-emails-journalists-with-97-false-and-defamatory-claims-to-avoid-in-reporting-on-founder-julian-assange/

Wikileaks emailed journalists with a list of 97 “false and defamatory” statements about its founder/publisher Julian Assange after claiming efforts to defame him had “reached a new nadir”.

It said the number of “false and defamatory” claims made against Assange had “accelerated” since his internet access at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, where he has lived for more than six years, was cut off last year.

This rise was “perhaps because of an incorrect view that Mr Assange, due to his grave personal circumstances, can no longer defend his reputation”, it said in the email sent out to journalists.

Before listing 97 “false and defamatory” claims about Assange and Wikileaks itself, the email concluded: “The purpose of this list is to aid the honest and accurate and to put the dishonest and inaccurate on notice.”

It is believed that the list originally contained 140 claims, but the version published by Wikileaks today had some sections taken out."

WIKILEAK'S ITSELF PLACED A SECURITY CAVEAT on its Email List as “NOT FOR PUBLICATION”

But Wikileaks was forced to make the Email List (reproduced here http://pastelink.net/m69m ) public after the List was

LEAKED by JOURNALISTS who DEFIED WIKILEAK's LEGAL THREATS.