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Australia needs to rethink its position on Iran : Comments

By Peter Bowden, published 15/7/2019

The conflict between Donald Trump and Iran is a long drawn out affair, initiated by the United States, and has lasted almost ¾ of a century.

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Yair, SP.

Nuclear weapons, thermonuclear weapons, and "the mother of all bombs."

Then there was the incomparable P-38, Corsairs, Hellcats, Catalinas, Flying Fortresses, Liberators, Thunderbolts, B-25's, and the B-29 super fortress.

In modern times the venerable Phantom, Sabres, B-36's, B-52's, plus the B1 and the B2 stealth bomber. Then there is the outstanding F-15 which has shot down 100 enemy fighters for no loss. The magnificent A-10, the F-14, F-16, F-35, and the Raptor. Every time a Russian built fighter goes up against an American fighter, the poor pilot of the Russian plane thinks he is up against a flying saucer. The only way that the socialists can keep abreast of western military advances is to make direct copies of western weapons. The yanks say that they will always be 20 years in front of the Russians and the Chinese because "we have to invent it, design it, and build it, before the Russians and the Chinese can steal it."

Every time Russian tank crewmen think about the American M1A2 tank, the Apache helicopter, or the Hellfire missile, they hit the vodka.

The only weapon system that the entire Muslim world has invented in the last 500 years is the suicide bomber.

Oh, and I forgot. When that murdering old bastard Khomeini got cancer, where do you think the Iranians sent his biopsy samples? You guessed it, the Mayo Clinic in the good old USA.

I know all these things because I read books on history, and unlike your good self, I was resistant to socialist social theory with its resultant historical airbrushing.

I guess us Yokels, Bogans, Rednecks and white trash are the real smart ones because we live in a practical world where we use our brains to solve practical problems. While you graduates had your objective reasoning abilities destroyed by your cloistered academic professors, who did nothing other than teaching you to parrot leftist disinformation. And like a 13 year old smoking cigarettes because he thinks it makes him look adult, you lap up their fashionable leftist propaganda because you think it makes you look smart.
Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 2:09:18 PM
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Nothing like selective history of questionable achievements....so who is the Barbarian in Evangelical garb on the planet?
Posted by Special Delivery, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 7:27:20 PM
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Another well considered and deeply thought out reply by Special Delivery.

No wonder you lefties want to shut down freedom of speech. You are losing the debate so it is all that you can think of. If we were in a meeting hall, right now, in front of an impartial intelligent audience, do you think that they would be impressed with your sneery one liner replies?

Oh, and by the way. My mother was in Brisbane in 1941 when the first US troops came to Australia. Her father had told her that when the japs came, he was going to shoot my mother and her sister dead because everybody knew what the Japs did with captive women. She said that when the US troops arrived, "It was like the second coming of Christ". That was how much Australians were grateful to the USA for saving our arses. THAT is why I never swallowed the anti US propaganda that you apparently swallowed, hook, line, and sinker.

The USA has a lot of friends, which is more than I can say for your pals in Iran
Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 8:19:42 PM
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Hey LEGO,

"I don't know under what circumstances you obtained your peculiar anti US world view, but it would be interesting to find out why."

FYI my world view is probably more Anti-bs than it is Anti-US, specifically.
You're gonna have to try to learn to think OUTSIDE the box.

"Now, repeat after me until you get it. USA, democracy, wealthy, progressive, inventive, industrious, influential, many friends. Iran, totalitarian, poor, backward, decadent, invented nothing, despised, and only terrorists for friends.

USA good. Iran bad."

Sounds like a brainwashed jellyfish type of response to me
Though that's probably a contradictory;
- Jellyfish probably don't have brains -

Seriously, stop eating up the crud the mainstream media spoon feed you and call news.

Try Independent News Sources Instead
- Break the conditioning and become informed -

Here's where I got my news today.

UAE Tanker "Disappears," UAE Silent But US Blames Iran & Israel Now Suing EU For NOT Violating JCPOA
http://youtu.be/WvJ5SG1Eu7s

Stupid fools don't realise I'm actually trying to help you wise up to things
- Why I bother is anyone's guess...
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 18 July 2019 1:50:28 AM
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I'd be willing to be that most news reporters commenting on this haven't even read the JCPOA
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2165399-full-text-of-the-iran-nuclear-deal
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 18 July 2019 7:29:52 AM
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Hey AC.

"Thinking outside the box".

I grew up at a time when the Right had long been in control of power in most of the western world, including Australia. They were the censors. They were the ones press ganging luckless, voteless conscripts to fight in Vietnam, a war most people with intelligence today realise was a huge mistake. They had control of the media. They were the ones controlling the school syllabus. I still remember being directed by my teachers to read articles in approved school reading material preaching race hatred towards Chinese, and praising Israel.

It was Vietnam that got me politically aware and got me interested in reading books on controversial topics by historians, soldiers, journalists, and academics. You can tell who is telling the truth because facts cross check and co relate, especially when their views coincide with people who directly witnessed events under examination. Vietnam caused me to lose all faith in the Right, and I thought that as a group they were all a bunch of idiots. However, I never fell for the anti Americanism of my Left wing peers, as I remembered what my mother told me about how the USA had saved Australia from Japanese invasion, genocide, and mass rape.

But it was the reflexive anti white rhetoric of the Left that got me re thinking the aims and opinions of the Left. One thing was crystal clear. The Left parrots on about equality when they are the biggest social snobs around. They despise their own race and culture as some sort of identifying badge for their brahmin caste of psuedo-aristocratic graduate elites.

Now it is the Left who holds most of the power. They are the new censors. They are the new oppressors demanding conformity to their morality. They want to police every person's speech. And they will prosecute you if you "offend" their largely imported electorate. They control the media including Google, Youtube, Facebook, and Twitter. And they control the school syllabus. Their reflexive anti Americanism is just a part of their western hating agenda, and you fell for it.
Posted by LEGO, Thursday, 18 July 2019 7:50:40 AM
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