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Jordan Peterson gets it wrong on inequality : Comments

By Tristan Ewins, published 4/7/2019

Peterson argues that ‘the Equity Doctrine …. has gone too far’.

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7000... pfffttt

Well, back in April I read this:

40k Venezuelans killed by US Sanctions – Report
http://youtu.be/cgi7TDNh5Ps

It's the US that wants its hands on Venezuelan oil.
Which is the reason they like Iran can't sell their own.
And both those countries would be richer than the US, if not for the US's policies of economic warfare against others.

The truth is there's obviously a policy that every independent country on the planet (one's that cannot be conquered or controlled by 'democracy') MUST be brought to heel and brought under a global umbrella.

All these nations are having hell metered out collectively upon their citizens for a foreign global plan, no more no less.

The right to self determination is bs.
They only use that when they wish to make a piecemeal out of someone else that works towards their goals.

So what's the death toll for Yemen, and Syria?
And for what oil and oil pipelines?
When they keep guilt-tripping us that it's about climate change?

What total utter bs
You add that number to the other one.
And the finger of blame points to the US (and it's allies)
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 8 July 2019 7:34:17 AM
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if the reports of death squads in Venezuela are true I would be appalled ; as that is exactly what the Left has faced in Central and South America so many times. Truth is we don't know what's true and what's not in an information war. I hope it's untrue ; but I know this is the reality of power.
Posted by Tristan Ewins, Monday, 8 July 2019 9:45:40 AM
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Tristan,

This is from UN after interviewing >500 people from the UN which is hardly a US puppet.

"Venezuelan security forces are sending death squads to murder young men and stage the scenes to make it look like the victims resisted arrest, a new UN report said.

Government figures showed deaths ascribed to criminals resisting arrest numbered 5,287 last year and 1,569 by May 19 this year. The report, issued on Thursday by United Nations human rights chief Michelle Bachelet, decried a "shockingly high" number of extrajudicial killings.

Families of 20 men described how masked men dressed in black from Venezuela's Special Action Forces (FAES) arrived in black pick-up trucks without licence plates. Witnesses said the death squads broke into houses, took belongings, and assaulted women and girls, sometimes stripping them naked....

The report - which drew on 558 victim accounts, witnesses of violence and other sources - said the killings were part of a strategy by the government of President Nicolas Maduro aimed at "neutralising, repressing and criminalising political opponents and people critical of the government"."
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 8 July 2019 10:32:59 AM
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To Tristan.

Nationalist Socialist Germany was a totalitarian state which differed from Internationalist Socialist states only in that it rejected the idea of the State owning all of the means of production and distribution. Which, I might point out, is exactly the model that Russia and China have adapted today. The Chinese Communist Party, which has adopted the National Socialist political and economic model, would think that you were crazy if you called their system of government "capitalist." They are not capitalists, they are communist totalitarians who finally had to admit that their socialist economic model was a failure.

Sooner or later, every International Socialist (Communist) government figures out that state control of the means of production and distribution results in economic catastrophe, and they change to a Nazi style system of totalitarian government and a limitted degree of free market economics. This caused some dismay among the Americans. They wanted the Russians and Chinese to stay Communist because they wanted them to keep stuffing everything up.

If you want ethics in government, then you should be advocating for free market democracy. Look up the corruption index for every country on Earth and it is the white, Protestant, democratic European countries that have the lowest corruption index. There must be something fundamentally right about the culture of these people which stresses the virtues of honesty, truth, and a sense responsibility to the community as a whole.

Trying to be an apologist for socialism is like Runner trying to explain how the universe was created in six days. Most older people would look at you askance and wonder what is wrong with you.

There is no comparison between democratic, free market states and socialist totalitarian states who are using similar economic systems. Unless you factor in that the democracies were usually never stupid enough to adapt the socialist economic model in the first place. And if they did (like Sweden) they eventually reached the point where they back pedalled, fast.
Posted by LEGO, Monday, 8 July 2019 6:15:48 PM
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Hey SM,

Cause and Effect

It looks like their targeting members of the opposition or those considered to be supportive of or actively involved if foreign sponsored regime change. This is what happens when you try to conduct regime changes on other counties by providing foreign military, intelligence and financial support to an opposition.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/07/report-venezuela-death-squads-kill-young-men-stage-scenes-190704170704105.html

Always interesting to read about the person saying it too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Bachelet
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 8 July 2019 9:01:08 PM
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Hey LEGO,
"There is no comparison between democratic, free market states and socialist totalitarian states who are using similar economic systems."

I think you're being a little bit naive there;
At the very least - try to take in the bigger picture

If you're a 'democratic' country, you get access to global trade and financial markets.
If you're not a 'democratic' country
You get targeted for destruction;
- By being denied access to trade and financial markets.

From there it doesn't take much for a nation to implode.
Especially if there's boots on the ground trying to make it happen.
You impose the economic warfare 'sanctions' as collective punishment on the entire nation in the hope in emboldens the people to support the removal of the incumbent government.
Organise protests, civil disorder and damage to government property to force a confrontation with government.
The government needs to stand behind it's police and military otherwise those same people wont stand behind the government, so what you need to do is have your people violently attack those government people, forcing a a reaction where they take it too far and then show the footage (globally) and push the narrative that "the government is attacking the people', that it's a 'regime' and the leader a 'dictator'; and that he 'needs to be removed for the good of the nation and its people'.
You have your people infiltrate media supportive of the opposition and use them to deliberately shed the government in a bad light;
- And so that the government liberality comes after those reporters.

Because you WANT the government to come after the press, so you can say the 'government is attacking free speech' and 'attacking members of the press'.
All these things erode the governments legitimacy, and life for the citizens will become more difficult because of the sanctions.
You claim to want to bring in humanitarian aid, as cover for weapons.
You arm and fund militia groups,
You create false flag events,
You attack the economy.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 1:13:01 AM
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