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On poverty : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 13/6/2019

In our country, and others like them, at election times, and indeed pretty well all the time, poverty is seen as being somehow wrong in principle, and my political party or yours will end it, or at least reduce it.

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The simple solution to your last problem is to go home to your wife and family after you knock off work instead of going to the pub and getting a skin full with the very obvious consequences which often also include instances of family violence. And I am only just starting.
David
Posted by VK3AUU, Friday, 14 June 2019 7:43:33 AM
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VK3AUU, well there you have it, problem solved.
David the solution is never as simple as you suggest.
If it was, there would not be a problem and the need for these types of discussions.
As I pointed out, there is no 'one size fits all' solution to these things.
The current scheme of legal management has always been designed to make it easier for the law enforcement arm to go about it's bastard business of collecting revenue and not give a damn about the public and any consequences that may come as a result of a judges decision.
In a more intelligent and aware system, the govt can still get their 'blood money', and not destroy people's lives.
After all, people are doing that all by themselves, they don't need the law to help make things worse.
In a more intelligent and aware system, the punishment would not be the cause of the destruction of a family and it's provider.
It is possible to fine someone for a mis-demeenor and not destroy their lives.
Firstly, you leave their driving license alone, to do otherwise would be impossible to manage.
By all means raise the fine, after all that's what the bastards are after in the first place.
In so doing he still has a license to enable him to continue to work and earn money to pay the fine and his and his family's lives have not been turned upside down to the point of destruction.
Regarding your concerns about family violence.
Apart from being a totally different matter, it is not relevant to this point, because if he gets drunk or not and slaps his wife around or not, is a social issue.
If you can stop Aussies from drinking and attacking their wives, go ahead by all means, but at least the family unit is together and with counselling it may be salvaged, but the current legal thinking actually heightens the risk of the destruction of the family unit.
And this current situation is the direct fault of the legal system.
Posted by ALTRAV, Friday, 14 June 2019 8:51:22 AM
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A few years ago, I sat in the magistrates court at a local town and watched the proceedings. Several years later I was having a conversation with the Chief Magistrate from that same court at a private function and I opined that if it wasn't for drugs and alcohol, he would be out of a job. Would you be surprised that he agreed with me.
David
Posted by VK3AUU, Friday, 14 June 2019 9:14:11 AM
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VK3AUU, NO! I am certainly not be surprised.
I have believed this from a young age.
But more to the point David.
What does this say about Australians?
Posted by ALTRAV, Friday, 14 June 2019 9:19:38 AM
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find other ways of dealing with drink/drug driving.
ALTRAV,
One very effective way is a Community Service-National Service!
Posted by individual, Friday, 14 June 2019 9:36:44 PM
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"In 1965, 3 % of the working age population was on welfare benefits of one sort or another. Now 16 % of adults rely on welfare. That means that in 1965 there were 22 taxpayers for every one person on welfare; now the number is 5, and this in a society which is considerably richer.

Conclusion 1. A very large number of people have their fingers in the till.

Conclusion 2. Extrapolate forward and welfare growth in Australia is unsustainable and it will eventually ruin our economy.

Conclusion 3. The "rich" keep paying and paying, but the "poor" keep increasing and increasing.

Fact.1 Since the abolition of the White Australia Policy, Australian immigration officials seem determined to import into this country unassimilatable groups of people from third world countries who have very high rates of welfare dependency and serious criminal behaviour. So, while no nation or culture can eliminate poverty, it can sure do a lot to reduce it by facing inconvenient truths.

One of these, is that race, crime, intelligence, and poverty are linked. If that is racism, consider this. In the USA, according to the FBI statistics, a white man is 60 times more likely to be assaulted by an African American, than an African American is likely to be assaulted by a white man. White women are 200 times more likely to be sexually assaulted by an African American, than a black woman is to be sexually assaulted by a white man. On the basis of those statistics, which race is the more racist? 50% of black US males 18 to 45 are either in jail or on parole.

In Australia, the Australian Bureaux of Statistics has been ordered not to compile any statists on ethnic crime. So we can all be sure that statistics relating to ethnic welfare dependency would also be suppressed, because socialist ideologues with utopian dreams always need to suppress the truth. But despite the fake news, we know that certain notorious ethnic ghettoes have very high rates of welfare dependency.

One fantastic way to stop "poverty" growth is to stop importing it
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 16 June 2019 8:25:23 AM
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