You're wrong Ponder.

From what I've seen among Christians, the idea of personal responsibility is held throughout the culture of Christian perspectives that I am aware of. Though I can't speak for other religions that believe in God, I can say that your wrong on your conclusion for Christians.

There is a debate that I see pop up among Christians that circles around being saved and whether that salvation can be lost or not; about being chosen by God versus choosing God; about obedience and legalism versus mercy and everlasting grace.

The debate that is concerned with your comment is the accusation that one side of several of those topic are claiming that it's ok to sin. That our actions and our responsibility is not part of the equation. I bring this up because this accusation is not accurate. From what I've seen no one thinks this way and argues that by not focusing on legalism and obedience they are for opening the gates for a sinful and unrepentant lifestyle.

What you've proposed in saying there's no personal responsibility is doing the same thing. It's stretching one possible rationale for believing in God, and thinking that your not accountable anymore; then assuming this idea is actually held by those who believe in God.

Find an example of a person who believes in God and doesn't believe in personal responsibility, and then we'll go from there. Until then, I'll just say you're wrong, due to never seeing what you've described as a held philosophy.

To me religion, the belief in some supreme being, there to look after them, is simply the invention of weak people, who are not enough to face this big & often nasty world by them selves. The thought that they have only a very few family friends to help them handle their lives is too much for them, & they invent an all powerful ally, & call them god.

With recent killing events, & the thought of millions who have died most horribly of disaster genocide & famine over the centuries it is very hard for me to believe in a beneficial "god", & if a god is not beneficial, why have one.

Then we have the hate. If yours is an all powerful god, why do believers feel threatened enough to hate the believers in other gods. Surely you should simply feel sorry for these misbelievers, who are bound for hell according to your belief. It can only be the fear that their god may be true, & yours may not be, that causes all the waring between creeds.

I simply thank god that I am not a believer!

To Hasbeen

God being an invention is a good starting point for any explaination to explain away a belief in Him. But if God is real then that kills the explaination completely. Even if it has more to the explaination to explain about the people believing in God.

I'm telling you that He is real. The thing to do after that realization is to figure out who God is. What is from Him. And if He is good or not.

Spoilers for you. He is good too. I wish I knew why there is so much evil in the world. Why it is broken as much as it is. But not knowing the explaination doesn't change the sitution of God being real. He is.

Here's a starting point on looking For God. Look at the brilliance and diversity of life on earth. If you have the ability, study one point of it closely. The study of anatomy was a good point for me in that direction. Then consider that focused study and compound it by the diversity of life in the world. God is the most reasonable explanation. He should therefore be at least a consideration for continued search for Him in anyone's life.

U r in pretty 'good company Has been. With Stalin, Mao, Idi etc. We have choice to go to grave with fellow degeneratives or go to be with Christ the merciful King.

Ponder,

"People who believe in some kind of supreme being are placing the responsibility for their own actions in that being - not taking personal responsibiltiy for what they think, say, or do"

Seems that you should ponder a bit more, and also get Grammarly (it's free).

Another thought bubble from a one dimensional bore, with no idea of the human need to embrace the metaphysical.

The secularists creed at least try's to include it in, with works from their own guru witch doctors, but always fails to match the challenge presented by the theists proven track record.

Dan