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By Verity Jackson, published 2/4/2019We have police strike forces formed to establish criminality and perhaps lay charges, and yet at my sleepy suburban high school, years later, such abuses were still occurring.
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And ... what are we to do with this?
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 8:12:21 AM
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I have a problem with a sexually experienced girl suddenly responding to, me too, in her fifties.
As she says, she was complicit and consensual. If not a technical adult, behaved as if she was? Her own moral values or lack thereof contributed to the enduring relationship. Which ended with a whimper not a bang. Sorry, the pun was unintended. Had she been a 14-year-old virgin like the damaged boy she referred to, would have had more sympathy for her, me too, position. I was just nine years old! With no parental protection to turn or report to! Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 2 April 2019 10:59:55 AM
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if I was you I would be repenting of my immorality. Sounds like your school had a complete culture of debauchery.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 11:10:20 AM
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Verity trying to rationalise your responses as a teenager from the position of an older woman is a bit of a silly game to play. It appears you are trying to relive the excitement of a young girls sexual experiences, from the perspective of a some what jaded woman.
It has always been thus, since people started living together in groups. Some young girls, [& women] will use their attractiveness to lure older men, & some older men will use their position to lure young girls & women, & probably always will. I think you are giving this too much credence. Perhaps you were hurt when your relationship ended, but would it have been any different if your partner was a boy your own age? I think a lot of women suffer more than men from the "is this all there is" syndrome. Assured from childhood that you would get married, have children & a house, & this would be fulfilling, after 25 or 30 years many think they have been sold a pup. As you appear to be doing, I sometimes look back & think what if. What if I/she had/hadn't done something, where would I be today. Hell I might have even been a stuff shirt pillar of society, rather than a worn out old reprobate, with fantastic memories. Just remember we are a product of our experiences. That experience helped make you who you are. If you like who you are, be thankful for the experience. I have been hurt, & probably hurt some along the way, been frightened & elated occasionally, but I wouldn't intentionally change a minute of it. Try to develop the same attitude. Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 12:48:14 PM
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I always thought the teenage years were about learning about relationships & all that goes with it. Never did it occur to me to think of the apprenticeship of intimacy as abuse.
Like most people I had encounters that still make me wonder about myself, but they were a learning curve not an abuse. I have the strange feeling the meaning of the word abuse is not fully understood by many ! Posted by individual, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 1:57:10 PM
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So we have an article called 'Triggered' written by a person using a Pseudonym which concluded with '#MeToo'.
I wonder what the authors motivations were for writing this. Is it fashionable to be part of the feminist-victimhood crowd? Is she trying to somehow have something good come out sharing her story with others. What exactly is she saying? What exactly does she want? Why is it so? The good thing about proclaiming victimhood is that you can just: 'Blame everyone else' for the way stuff turned out. I feel as though she believes she was exploited; and it sounds like she kind of was; Because it's not ethical for teachers to have relationships with their own high school students. When those kids have finished school and are adults, I guess it's a grey area. It feels like maybe the teachers are exploiting a position of community trust. - And she can justify herself as therefore being a #MeToo victim. On the other hand, and in truth maybe she wasn't really exploited at all. Regarding her relationship was it not consensual because she too was getting something out of it? Does the nature of it being consensual allude to her getting something out of it too? - That she was exploiting the fact that SHE was the object of his affections for her own jollies? Just as much as he was exploiting a young vulnerable and impressionable teenager for his jollies? Didn't she like any of the other kids in her class or her own age? What made her WANT to go off with her ex teacher and a bloke 10 years older than other boys her own age? Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 2:21:52 PM
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Are girls going to blame boys for poor choices and naivety in adolescence; - When they preferred and CHOSE to go off with the ex-teacher / older boy than with someone her own age anyway? Maybe we should consider the possibility of the real truth of it all: - If she was exploited, it was because she herself WANTED to be with him. Don't claim victimhood and insult and blame all boys for where your own attractions lead you. I've got bad news for you and your daughter. Girls of today like to run off with older boys just as they always did; And 26 year old boys of today like to exploit girls just the same today as they did when you were still young. There will always be exploitation. Raise your daughter wisely. Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 2:25:53 PM
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Raise your daughter wisely.
Armchair Critic, The way things are we'd better advise the kids of today not to consult their parents. Posted by individual, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 2:54:24 PM
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This piece of sounding off would have been better left as a private 'dear diary' note for personal use only.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 4:10:08 PM
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A new victim is born. A New Democrat. Down with DonaldTrump. A new member of the club...me too...(but not me too)!
FM...is the demolishing of past history and its norms not over? Haul down another statue of Captain Cook, and replace it with King Billy holding spear...ra ra etc. Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 4:47:24 PM
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Age of consent laws in the western world are bizarre.
In Spain it is 13 years old, in most of Eastern Europe 14, in France 15, and in most of the rest of western Europe, 16. In Queensland it used to be 17, which was a subject of some hilarity among teenage boys from my generation. But weirdest of them all is the USA. The age of consent in the USA is 18, with a "three year" rule tossed in to make it idiotic. That is, a 19 year old boy may have sex with a 16 year old girl, but if a 20 year old does it with a 16 year old, it is statutory rape." So too, a 20 year old male can have sex with a 17 year old girl, but a 21 year old boy gets 20 years in the nick. Just to confuse everybody further, any man in "authority" over a female in many countries may not have sex with adult females who are junior to him in rank. A coach can't do it, even with an 18 year old woman he coaches. Neither can professors, drill sergeants, officers with non coms, and many other professions as well. In addition, there is the little problem of male and female sexual mores. A male teacher who has sex with a female student is looked upon by most males as the lowest of the low. But if a female teacher has sex with a young male student, especially if she is very good looking, most males would say to the boy "you lucky little bugger." How female adults perceive male teachers having sex with female students is something I don't know, although it appears from the tone of this article, that this female writer was as blaze' about the whole encounter. As for a male student being "damaged" by his sexual encounter with a female teacher, sorry, I just don't believe it. I would say that the boy had bragging rights among his mates for years afterwards. Posted by LEGO, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 5:42:12 PM
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"damaged" by his sexual encounter with a female teacher, sorry, I just don't believe it
Lego, Well, he could be a gay Leftie ! Posted by individual, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 5:59:24 PM
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When I think of 'women triggered' I think of Bing Crosby and the Andrews's sisters 'Pistol Packin' Mama'.
http://youtu.be/PjgqQcKE3DY That songs 76 years old. I don't see any 'blame men for exploiting women' attitude in it. I'm not sure where the 'blame men for everything' attitude came from. Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 7:04:42 PM
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Sorry LEGO, can't agree with you that young men victims of female predation will not be hurt by the experience,
One quick glance at the French President proves they can be severely deleteriously effected. Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 2:24:07 AM
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Sex and sexual appetite are hard things to restrain. It takes a good parent with the experience and maturity to see past those experiences of their youth, to the consquences of them and their peers who had simular experiences; to be able to guide their kids from doing the same and making the same mistakes.
Take heart in your wake up call. You can try to be there for your daughter because of it. Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 3:43:39 AM
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Good point, Hasbeen.
Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 3:52:02 AM
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It seems that as sex became more liberal in society, and sex became less about having children and became less conservative, sexual abuse became more of a problem. But #metoo is against anti-liberals/ conservatism- this seems to be a contradiction. As Ayn Rand says you can't deny reality.
If your code (philosophy) isn't consistent you'll get chaos. Posted by Canem Malum, Friday, 5 April 2019 9:24:01 AM
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