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Gaping hole in greenhouse gas emissions : Comments

By David Leyonhjelm, published 4/3/2019

Australia’s commitments, no matter what anyone thinks of them, are quite pointless unless they are conditional on action by the world’s big emitters.

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Any one who has not woken up to the fraud that is global warming, is either simply not very bright, or has something to gain by perpetuating the hoax.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 4 March 2019 10:56:23 AM
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Strongly disagree, David, On the premise, various assumptions/alternative/remedies.

As always this problem is viewed by you and your manifestly moribund moronic cohort, as, why should we do anything or go first!?

Well DUMMY, because it's in our ginormous, exponentially expanding economic self-interest to do so!

Like Automakers scrambling to get onboard as China ramps all-electric car production to over a million units a year.

What happens when just one nation leads by ultra-pragmatic, sane example.

We can/should lead by example, that example being MSR thorium, utilised as the flameless heat source needed to extract all the Methane gas from mined thermal coal.

Then used as transitionary transport fuels that end our reliance on any imported fuel forever!

MSR thorium if coupled to space age deionisation dialysis desalination has the capacity to virtually drought-proof the nation, turn every saline aquifer/seawater into an entirely useable source of high-quality potable water, we can still afford. Able to affordably pump over the highest country, if that's needed!

MSR thorium, coupled to the Graphene highway, means we can jump into the Tesla, drive from Adelaide to Darwin and back without ever needing to stop for a refill unless we decide to. On around ten bucks worth of fuel!

Compressed methane, able to power any internal combustion engine. All while reducing transport emissions by 40%!? Used in a national gas grid to power our domiciles/industry via ceramic fuel cells, by as much as 80% plus.

But only if we are too stupid to just go completely nuclear and run the aforementioned as a couple of pilot projects others can choose to emulate if they're so wedded to coal and the coal barons, they can't or WON'T give it up.

MSR thorium brings with it walk away safe, reliable, affordable, dispatchable, carbon-free power for less than 2 cents per KwH.

Creates a conga line of high tech manufacturers lining up to relocate here. And with them JOBS-JOBS-JOBS, TAXPAYERS-TAXPAYERS-TAXPAYERS and exports-exports-exports, forever, DUMMY! Long after all our coal/gas mines are just windswept holes in the ground, DUMMY!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 4 March 2019 11:03:54 AM
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Yes, there are holes you could drive a double-wide load through in our emissions! Given that we as the biggest exporter of coal and gas in the world!?

Could well be responsible for as much as a total combined 40% of total emissions.

Taswegian is right in understanding, these are being produced by the very exports of coal and gas that almost alone is keeping our faltering economy afloat!

But for that bizarre insanity, we could/should hit high emitters with a perfectly justifiable carbon tariff!

As for our insane ultra-dependance on coal and gas exports. We need to get off of this whirlwind and out of the export emissions industry, to replace it with clean green food.

On the clear understanding, the very next boom will be a very long and enduring food boom!

We can and should set ourselves up to take advantage of that by turning our arid inland into a productive garden that supports that very outcome and in spades.

Of assistance would be real tax reform roll out as a single, unavoidable, stand-alone, flat tax of 15%. Applied to all income earned here! No exceptions, ifs, buts or maybes. Made fair but a very generous increase in the tax threshold!

The world's cheapest electricity coupled to the world's lowest, [in real terms,] tax, will have energy dependent, high tech manufacturing, self-funded retirees and the jobs of the future, queuing to relocate to this country. And bringing their tax liabilities with them!

All excellent ideas and well worthy of intensive consideration. Just ignored by conflicted politicians who just fake caring about the country and their fellow Australians.

Concerned only with their bank balances etc., and that of their family, cronies and similarly disposed cohort!?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 4 March 2019 11:46:20 AM
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I strongly agree with Leyno's article.

And have voiced many of the same sentiments in the past, including:

- There is no plastic bubble of greenhouse goodness covering Australia. We are just part of the world climate.

- Most countries couldn't care less about the moral example Australian greenies think they are setting. These countries include the main emitters eg. China, India and (Trump's stripping environmental laws) USA.

Meanwhile LABOR is conflicted between its green-Left and its Center and Right factions who support the mining, energy and manufacturing sector that rely on existing energy levels.

Fortunately this pans out to be Labor's net policies being pretty much like the Coalition's in the end.
Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 4 March 2019 12:25:08 PM
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Taswegian: "There is much to gain from going low carbon ASAP."

Yes, like more frequent blackouts, selling more diesel standby generators, much higher power prices, driving up the cost of living, scaring away potential investors, driving local businesses offshore, losses of many thousands of jobs, etc.
Posted by Raycom, Monday, 4 March 2019 1:11:01 PM
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Alan B.,

If you think that Australia's puerile actions on global warming make us a leader and example for any other nation, you're the dummy. Give one example to the contrary. Gross expense, driven by ridiculous targets and subsidies of useless renewables don't add up to a policy which is sustainable.

Taswegian,

If every individual in Australia took "individual actions" it still wouldn't amount to a row of beans - the quantum is too small - and our "moral authority" is therefore zero. To think that China and/or India are rogues because those governments are trying to bring their people into the 21st century shows just how out of touch one can get.
To suggest otherwise illustrates terminal vanity.

When's the last time President Xi, or any other president, for that matter, asked that Australia's GHG emissions be on the agenda for discussion at the National People's Congress?
Posted by calwest, Monday, 4 March 2019 1:12:52 PM
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