'I agree, but again you needed to supply examples to demonstrate your point.'

come on Ozspen. You must be kidding.

runner,

This is what you wrote: <<<The depravity of man is very clear for all to see. I include myself in this. Thanks for reminding me Galen.>>

My response was: <<I agree, but again you needed to supply examples to demonstrate your point.>>

Now you state: <<come on Ozspen. You must be kidding.>>

I am dead set serious! There are people I know who do lots of good deeds for others and appear to be 'good' people and would never see themselves as being depraved. Neither would they give that label to Mother Teresa of Calcutta, Corrie ten Boom of Haarlem, the Netherlands; those who volunteer for charitable organisations, everyday people who cause no harm to others and follow the rules at work, etc.

We can see depraved actions in those who murder and commit crime and violence, but human depravity needs examples for the everyday folks to know that depraved/evil thoughts that break God's laws are just as depraved as evil actions of the terrorists on 11 Sept 2001 at the twin towers.

Jeremiah 17:9-10 nails it for people like you and me but we need to explain it to all:

“The human heart is the most deceitful of all things,
and desperately wicked.
Who really knows how bad it is?
But I, the Lord, search all hearts
and examine secret motives.
I give all people their due rewards,
according to what their actions deserve.”

That judgment by God applies to all people, including Mother Teresa, Corrie ten Boom and those who volunteer wherever.

However, that's not how ordinary Aussies see it and it is my view we need to show them with examples.

If you don't believe me, take a read of this: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/queensland/nathan-wiseman-couldn-t-see-the-bad-in-anyone-and-it-cost-him-his-life-20190208-p50wn8.html

Ozspen

We are on the same page however the sins of omission and commission are numerous. Every person including mother Theresa have broken the 10 commandments. Ordinary aussies as you put it condone the ripping apart of the unborn, fornication, homosexuality, lying, stealing and the list goes on. All are miles from righteousness without Christ. The greatest sin is the rejection of the Merciful Saviour who died a horrible death so all could be forgiven. John 3:18-19 makes it clear that men reject Christ because they love darkness rather than light not for some made up historical denial. The problem is not intellectual, it is a love of darkness.

runner,

<<Every person including mother Theresa have broken the 10 commandments>>

Are you saying they (including mother Theresa) have broken all of the 10 commandments, including you and me?

There's a theory that mankind deep down is good. That we are born good but later learn the things that make us what we are now. The theory goes on the lines that racism and sexism are learned behaviors, not something children are born with.

However for an example of deprivity of mankind is that in our early years, while we are still innocent, we have to be taught to be good and to not hit, to share toys instead of grabbing and taking away from younger siblings, and to respect others and not talk back.

These are at our most innocent years and yet we still need to be taught to be good. Those that aren't run wild with parents who don't say no to their kids, and either spoil them or just don't punish them if they do something wrong.

This is the heart of human deprivity, and it can get better or it can get worse depending on how we are raised and taught. At our roots we we have to be taught to be good, because we don't know the difference between good or bad.

Hope that helps for an example, . :)

'Are you saying they (including mother Theresa) have broken all of the 10 commandments, including you and me?'

Ozspen

break one you have broken the lot. Sure you know that. And of course that includes you and me.

Not so Soon

well written