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A world federation : Comments

By John Avery, published 4/12/2018

We have the power to choose a future where international anarchy, chronic war and institutionalized injustice will be replaced by democraticand humane global governance.

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BAZZ
"It controls 1/3 of world taking over Europe ".
YouTube founded by Chad Hurley, Steve Chen, and Jawed Karim, who were all early employees of PayPal.

https://www.youtube.com/unitednations
Official Channel of the United Nations. It is a front for the Saudi-Iran monolith and Theresa May just exited before the crunch.
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 3:36:06 PM
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A credit to you, John Avery, for this brilliant and compelling offering.

You have so clearly identified the deficiencies in the current operation of the UN and posited a viable plan for its reformation - so that it may eventually be capable of living up to expectations and ultimately have a real chance to realize its foundational objectives.

I see a real prospect for a World Federation, exercising an appropriate range of universal laws, within which 'umbrella' the world's nation states would then operate as individual federations, fully maintaining their own individual legal frameworks - but with their individual powers being appropriately constrained.

A multinational UN armed force, operating only within the full authority and authorization of the UN 'Federation', within it's, the UN's, established legal framework, could also be very effective - but only so subsequent to the required 'reformation' of the UN itself. (No veto powers.)

None of this would be easy; but then few worthwhile undertakings are.

The aspirations (hopes) expressed are indeed so very commendable:

<<We, the people of the world, not only have the facts on our side; we also have numbers on our side. The vast majority of the worlds peoples long for peace. The vast majority long for abolition of nuclear weapons, and for a world of kindness and cooperation, a world of respect for the environment.>>
<<We need a sense of the unity of all mankind to save the future, a new global ethic for a united world. We need politeness and kindness to save the future,politeness and kindness not only within nations but also between nations.>>
<<To save the future, we need a just and democratic system of international law; for with law shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.>>

We must live in hope.
(To be continued).
Posted by Saltpetre, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 11:23:08 PM
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(Cont'd):

But, I think it will take more than the posited world-wide Get-Up-like movement of the masses to convince the world's 'powers' to fully embrace the most worthy objectives identified in your article:

<<We live at a critical time for human civilization, a time of crisis. Each of us must accept his or her individual responsibility for solving the problems that are facing the world today. We cannot leave this to the politicians. That is what we have been doing until now, and the results have been disastrous. Nor can we trust the mass media to give us adequate public discussion of the challenges that we are facing. We have a responsibility towards future generations to take matters into our own hands, to join hands and make our own alternative media, to work actively and fearlessly for better government and for a better society.>>

I note Allan B has made a creditable contribution on page 1 of this thread, whereas other posters generally appear like an uncoordinated rabble. (No offence intended - just an observation.)

Again, thank you John Avery for persevering in casting pearls, but I am unfortunately unable to identify an appropriate mechanism to duly propagate your most worthwhile proposition.

Hopefully an IT expert may step forward to undertake this challenge.
Posted by Saltpetre, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 11:23:54 PM
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Well Altrav that is a big request !
Obviously I was referring to the Islamic Jihad movement.
I believe that there is a left wing sub movement that has a world
government as its objective. I have no idea as to how well it is
organised, and how monolithic it is.
I would suspect it is a loose collection of amateur conspirators.
But I could have that wrong and it is more formally organised.

They seem to have made an informal association with the Islamists.
Why does "Making a Pact with the Devil" come to mind ?
Notice how the left quickly leaps to the defense of muslims.
They, the left, need to read about the Islamic term "Useful Idiots".
The left will be the first to face the three choices.
Germany's National Socialists had agreements with the Jihadists.

The UN Human Rights Commission is run by the Islamic countries and
a while back was chaired by Saudi Arabia even though the Islamic
countries have not signed the UN Human Rights Treaty.
UNESCO was in a similar situation when they declared that the Jews
never had a connection to Jerusalem.
It only needs a few more countries to fall into line and the
Left and Islamic alliance will have control of the UN.

I do not know how you can resolve all these bits into one conspiracy.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 6 December 2018 7:38:14 AM
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Why don't homosexuals start their own schools rather than expecting the rest of us to conform to their demands?

The problem, of course, is that the LGBTIQ community would have to raise the money to establish such schools. And that shouldn’t be any great problem for them. After all, they raised millions last year for the same-sex marriage campaign. As a group they seem to have large amounts of disposable income. And surely QANTAS and the other large business groups who backed them would do some of the heavy financial lifting.

They won't. They prefer to pressure government because the entire strategy of gay activists is built upon the Marxist paradigm involving the re-distribution of power.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 6 December 2018 9:34:17 AM
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BAZZ, I believe in any endeavour in life, it is rarely only one entity doing something in isolation.
There are always different groups who are, possibly even co-incidentally working towards the same end, so it may not ever be the case for only one group, it may be several and in fact they are not in concert, but ultimately they will be in conflict, unless they capitulate.
My pet hate has become the Rothschilds and what they stood for and have become.
I'm not worldly enough to understand, nor spend too much time researching these things, but I have noticed anomaly and extractions of certain facts and information after they were once available, for all to see, but now, no more.
Why?
I find it conspicuous and suspicious, at the very least, yet fully expected if you are trying to cover your tracks.
I do believe there are, more than one group who arrogantly believe they want to run the world.
We can only hope, that these people, being the flawed animals they are, will never be able to come to terms with the thought that anyone else but their group should be in charge, and in so doing will set in motion the elements of their own undoing.
Dissent and disunity will eventually disrupt any dreams of world dominance.
We can only hope when/if that day comes, the groups will not find consensus and in fact begin a long and protracted battle against each other, leaving us alone.
Posted by ALTRAV, Thursday, 6 December 2018 10:12:25 AM
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