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Migrant caravan: branding migrants 'human shields' has a deadly motive : Comments
By Neve Gordon and Nicola Perugini, published 22/11/2018The use of military vocabulary - 'invasion', 'divisions', 'insurgency', 'offensive' and 'human shields' - to describe such migrants is, of course, calculated.
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Posted by mhaze, Friday, 23 November 2018 10:54:56 AM
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Philip S,
Typical of those adverse to Fact-Checking to attack a source as if their own "alternative facts" will be instantly proven by default. The Daily Mail itself is a parasitic organisation that leeches tabloid stories at random from sources all over the world without attribution. Wikipedia has banned it as an unreliable source and it's labelled as "a reactionary right-wing tabloid rag masquerading as a "traditional values" middle-class newspaper that is, in many ways, the second-worst of the British gutter press (only Rupert Murdoch's The Sun is worse). In the 1930s, it infamously supported Oswald Mosley and fascism". https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Daily_Mail It's a click-bait generator interested only in advertising revenue with a well-earned reputation for poor fact checking, sensationalism, and flat-out fabrication. No I don't trust Farcebook as a source of anything other than rumour, opinion and gossip. One may as well quote Twitter as a reliable source of facts. If you have an interest in conspiratorial stories such as Soros (was he a secret Nazi or a traitorous Jew?), you can't go past http://www.rightwingwatch.org/ as an indication of what the far right and evangelicals are thinking, doing and saying. There are plenty of supporting links included. That's the problem today. People only hear and see what they want to in order to support their own prejudices and beliefs. Posted by rache, Friday, 23 November 2018 2:21:40 PM
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So, what do these do-ggoders expect us to do ? Let us be overrun by people whose duty it is to out-breed us ? Well, I think it's high time that these people band together if they're seeing themselves persecuted. If they now get the idea of being mass migrants as safety is obviously in niumbers, then how about giving them the idea to band together & fight their oppressors ?
Or, are there no oppressors ? Are they simply following orders to swamp the West ? The westerners, be they black, white of brindle, need to wake up to this wave of humanity type warfare without guns. Posted by individual, Friday, 23 November 2018 5:28:59 PM
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The duty to out-breed us Americans on the Mexico-Australia border is drummed into their bandit brains . In interviews, Honduran members of the group said that they learned about the caravan from Facebook posts, and a report on the local HCH television station which ordered them "breed now, breed fast , breed to swamp the swamp".
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 23 November 2018 5:35:21 PM
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rache - I posted an article for debate, I did not say it was or was not true you jumped to conclusions.
The article has some truth and some questionable points. Only an idiot would think Soros is giving cards to everyone in the caravan, what is more likely is the possibility they have been given to the senior facilitators. Think about it there are many points to be taken into account before arriving at a decision. 1 How did it start, there are too many people for it to have started small it needed some organizing. The UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR) said that Mexican officials registered 7,233 people crossing the Rodolfo Robles border bridge from Guatemala on October 19 and 20 2 Just look at it too many carrying nothing to support them on the journey, who is financing the people, one report have the cost of water alone for them was in the region of $800,000. 3 The ones who are frail old etc what is happening when they can't continue? 4 MSM are very silent on this only the occasional update. 5 looks like they are doing the same as the European caravans did. "The migrants left and left us the garbage. What a waste of food, when they said they don't even have enough to eat." 6 Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto offered shelter, medical attention, schooling, jobs to Central Americans traveling in a caravan through his country, calling it a first step toward permanent refugee status. Authorities said more than 1,700 had already applied for refugee status. But several thousand turned down Nieto's offer, continuing their march to the US border. This suggests: that most of the migrant are a group of hardcore pick-and-choose activists who will settle for nothing less than U.S. benefit packages. http://www.thisisinsider.com/caravan-turns-down-mexico-offer-marches-to-us-border-2018-10 I see a lot of young military age men in the pics on a truck not walking. How many people would come to Australia and other Western countries if they got the same help from our Governments as they were getting from the leaders in the countries they left? Posted by Philip S, Friday, 23 November 2018 5:51:23 PM
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'In a statement, Soros and Mastercard declared that government aid programs haven't been enough to solve the issues facing refugees, suggesting that this is a problem that only the private sector can solve.'
Sounds like an argument for rule by corporations. How many refugees does Soros have living over at his place? Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 23 November 2018 9:21:42 PM
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Because of the hodgepodge that US 'immigration' policy has become, there are massive advantages if an illegal alien turns up with a kid in tow. Remember the woman whose kid was photo shopped crying to Trump? She had three kids but only took one to help her gain access to the US.
If an adult turns up they are interned. In the past they were eventually let loose on the promise that they'd return for their asylum hearing later. They rarely did. Trump et al have tightened that and now lone adults will not be let loose.
But if that adult has a kid...
Well we can't lock up kids because they are innocent. So we have to let them loose. And if the kid's loose, how could we possibly notlet the mum out too? And what about dad? He's sooo important to the family's well-being. (this is probably the only time the left care's about father's rights)
So the kids are a shield that protects the illegals from incarceration and being deported. That's the meaning of the term that these authors have (deliberately?) misunderstood.
If only the parents of these kids were as concerned about their welfare as the US government is. It reminds one of the parents who took their kids on dangerous sea journeys to get to Australia without regard to their welfare.
A country can't exist without defendable borders - it just becomes a geographic location. Those who want the US to fail are in favour of open borders. The rest want secure borders.