To Neve Gordon and Nicola Perugini.

Reading back through your previous posts, I see that you hate Israel, think entirely in terms of human rights, and think that the world should have no borders.

So, how is Islamic immigration going in borderless Europe lately? Not too well I hear. Even uber liberal Sweden has woken from it's virtue signaling torpor and has realised what a crazy mess they have made of their once prosperous and almost violence free society, by embracing multiculturalism.

European societies everywhere are breaking up into ethnic enclaves as the importation of dysfunctional, unnasimilatable, trouble prone minorities continue to flood into these societies. Your border free ideology is on the nose with the very white populations that you despise but prefer to live amongst.

But like a religious fundamentalist who refuses to acknowledge evolution, long after it has been accepted as a scientific fact, you continue to press the case for the vary same multicultural social experiment that has failed in every country which tried it.

When the facts are against you, try claiming the higher moral ground. And that is exactly what you puff piece claims to do. You present your side as the font of all human virtue, which of course means that both of you must be pillars of virtue yourself.

It is just amazing how some people today put their own self esteem in front of their own people welfare. You don't care how much crime is imported into your own communities. You don't care how many immigrants it will take to bankrupt your own nations social security system. You don't care how many of your own people are killed by imported terrorists. And you don't care if it is screamingly obvious that all importing trouble prone minorities from always dysfunctional countries into successful countries does, is to expand the problem caused by these people into your own communities.

All that matters is your puritanical self image.

So here we have a couple of clowns who think they have some wright to dictate to the rest of the population.

They tell us we must give up the society & life style we have won through years of blood sweat & tears, so a bunch of useless gate crashers can come in & claim it for themselves for nothing.

If this rabble were worth having they would be at home putting in the blood sweat & tears necessary to make their own home somewhere worth having. No way they are likely to do that if they can get enough dills to let them in somewhere where they can get the spoils, without the effort or danger.

People like these authors are definitely a fifth column, trying to destroy everything we have worked for, & should be expelled from our society. They don't deserve any of it's fruits.

Looking for a 'better life' is not a qualification for asylum.

thank God for America's sake that Trump is in power.

posted on facebook today

'If you have not figured it out yet leftist have chosen:

Israel's enemies over Israel
illegal aliens over Americans
socialism over capitalism
crimminals over police
globalist over America
wall street over mainstreet
voter fraud over voter id
politics over people '

No doubt the usual mob are also gw hypocrites who fly first class around the world lecturing others

South American Christians have no place in North America , Sweden or Saudi Arabia. They're not getting Trump Tower either.

Another pointless discussion about the symptoms of a problem without addressing the cause but a convenient soapbox opportunity.

It will be interesting to see what happens when the first refugee is shot at the border by one of the $210million troop deployment or when the first children are put into cages.

Maybe Trump will have come up with a Final Solution by then - a pity the last attempt failed, otherwise he'd have something to work with to keep his supporters happy.

It's time to pull down the torch from Statue of Liberty and give the lady an AR-15 M16 automatic rifle.

Billionaire investor George Soros has repeatedly denied rumors that he is helping to finance the migrant caravans making their way up from Honduras and Guatemala through Mexico with the ultimate aim of reaching the US.

But that's about to change, as the "Open Society" founder - who famously financed much of the opposition to Trump SCOTUS pick Brett Kavanaugh - is now partnering with Mastercard to hand out money (in the form of 'investment capital') to migrants, refugees and "others struggling within their communities worldwide," according to Reuters. Through their partnership, Soros is effectively providing open financial support for migrants and refugees seeking to enter the US and Europe.

The partnership between Soros and Mastercard, which they are calling Humanity Ventures, is the result of a pledge that Soros made in September to spend $500 million to address "the challenges facing migrants and refugees."

In a statement, Soros and Mastercard declared that government aid programs haven't been enough to solve the issues facing refugees, suggesting that this is a problem that only the private sector can solve.

"Migrants are often forced into lives of despair in their host communities because they cannot gain access to financial, healthcare and government services," Soros said.

"Our potential investment in this social enterprise, coupled with Mastercard’s ability to create products that serve vulnerable communities, can show how private capital can play a constructive role in solving social problems," he added.

This comes after Master Card back in 2016 admitted that it has handed out prepaid debit cards to migrants and refugees traveling through Europe, something the company did with the explicit blessing of the European Union and the UN High Commissioner for Refugees

Like most claims coming from the Trump camp the Soros boogy-man stories are typically misleading or completely false, this time claiming he's paying people to "storm the USA".

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/soros-caravan-refugees/

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/soros-refugee-debit-cards/

Terrorist Indian tribes invaded Spanish Christian land in Oklahoma. To protect the Church , 90% of Californian Indians faced firing squads. Women and children from Spain are scouts for holy genocide to complete the Indian Removal by invading from Mexico. The federally legislated displacement of the tribes from their homes east of the Mississippi River took place over several decades during the series of removals, which is also known as the Trail of Tears. The territory to which they were displaced was, at the time, called Indian Territory, currently eastern Oklahoma.

rache Interesting link but can it be trusted, too take snopes as the holy bible of what is true and what is fake.

It is common knowledge Soros is paying hundreds of millions of dollars to destabilize Governments worldwide.

This refugee caravan is a highly organized thing it did not suddenly start, the logistics supplying medical, food etc can not be done by just anyone easily.

Do you trust Facebook?

Can Snopes be trusted all the time? Just as can the daily mail?

What can't be disputed is someone has to be paying who? If it it is not Soros it is someone or possible one of his organizations.

rache you want people to trust the people in the following article, sorry I do not.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4042194/Facebook-fact-checker-arbitrate-fake-news-accused-defrauding-website-pay-prostitutes-staff-includes-escort-porn-star-Vice-Vixen-domme.html

Now a DailyMail.com investigation reveals that Snopes.com's founders, former husband and wife David and Barbara Mikkelson, are embroiled in a lengthy and bitter legal dispute in the wake of their divorce.

He has since remarried, to a former escort and porn actress who is one of the site's staff members.

They are accusing each other of financial impropriety, with Barbara claiming her ex-husband is guilty of 'embezzlement' and suggesting he is attempting a 'boondoggle' to change tax arrangements, while David claims she took millions from their joint accounts and bought property in Las Vegas.

The Mikkelsons founded the site in 1995. The couple had met in the early 1990s on a folklore-themed online message board, and married before setting up the site.

Profiles of the website disclose that for some time before it was set up, the couple had posed as 'The San Fernardo Valley Folklore Society', using its name on letterheads, even though it did not exist.

A profile for the Webby Awards published in October describes it as 'an entity dreamed up to help make the inquiries seem more legit'.

So do these people truly not understand what the US means by 'human shield' in this instance or are they deliberately misconstruing the term to make a political point?

Because of the hodgepodge that US 'immigration' policy has become, there are massive advantages if an illegal alien turns up with a kid in tow. Remember the woman whose kid was photo shopped crying to Trump? She had three kids but only took one to help her gain access to the US.

If an adult turns up they are interned. In the past they were eventually let loose on the promise that they'd return for their asylum hearing later. They rarely did. Trump et al have tightened that and now lone adults will not be let loose.

But if that adult has a kid...
Well we can't lock up kids because they are innocent. So we have to let them loose. And if the kid's loose, how could we possibly notlet the mum out too? And what about dad? He's sooo important to the family's well-being. (this is probably the only time the left care's about father's rights)

So the kids are a shield that protects the illegals from incarceration and being deported. That's the meaning of the term that these authors have (deliberately?) misunderstood.

If only the parents of these kids were as concerned about their welfare as the US government is. It reminds one of the parents who took their kids on dangerous sea journeys to get to Australia without regard to their welfare.

A country can't exist without defendable borders - it just becomes a geographic location. Those who want the US to fail are in favour of open borders. The rest want secure borders.

Philip S,

Typical of those adverse to Fact-Checking to attack a source as if their own "alternative facts" will be instantly proven by default.

The Daily Mail itself is a parasitic organisation that leeches tabloid stories at random from sources all over the world without attribution.
Wikipedia has banned it as an unreliable source and it's labelled as "a reactionary right-wing tabloid rag masquerading as a "traditional values" middle-class newspaper that is, in many ways, the second-worst of the British gutter press (only Rupert Murdoch's The Sun is worse). In the 1930s, it infamously supported Oswald Mosley and fascism".

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Daily_Mail

It's a click-bait generator interested only in advertising revenue with a well-earned reputation for poor fact checking, sensationalism, and flat-out fabrication.

No I don't trust Farcebook as a source of anything other than rumour, opinion and gossip. One may as well quote Twitter as a reliable source of facts.

If you have an interest in conspiratorial stories such as Soros (was he a secret Nazi or a traitorous Jew?), you can't go past http://www.rightwingwatch.org/ as an indication of what the far right and evangelicals are thinking, doing and saying. There are plenty of supporting links included.

That's the problem today. People only hear and see what they want to in order to support their own prejudices and beliefs.

So, what do these do-ggoders expect us to do ? Let us be overrun by people whose duty it is to out-breed us ? Well, I think it's high time that these people band together if they're seeing themselves persecuted. If they now get the idea of being mass migrants as safety is obviously in niumbers, then how about giving them the idea to band together & fight their oppressors ?
Or, are there no oppressors ? Are they simply following orders to swamp the West ?
The westerners, be they black, white of brindle, need to wake up to this wave of humanity type warfare without guns.

The duty to out-breed us Americans on the Mexico-Australia border is drummed into their bandit brains . In interviews, Honduran members of the group said that they learned about the caravan from Facebook posts, and a report on the local HCH television station which ordered them "breed now, breed fast , breed to swamp the swamp".

rache - I posted an article for debate, I did not say it was or was not true you jumped to conclusions.

The article has some truth and some questionable points.

Only an idiot would think Soros is giving cards to everyone in the caravan, what is more likely is the possibility they have been given to the senior facilitators.

Think about it there are many points to be taken into account before arriving at a decision.
1 How did it start, there are too many people for it to have started small it needed some organizing. The UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR) said that Mexican officials registered 7,233 people crossing the Rodolfo Robles border bridge from Guatemala on October 19 and 20

2 Just look at it too many carrying nothing to support them on the journey, who is financing the people, one report have the cost of water alone for them was in the region of $800,000.

3 The ones who are frail old etc what is happening when they can't continue?

4 MSM are very silent on this only the occasional update.

5 looks like they are doing the same as the European caravans did.
"The migrants left and left us the garbage. What a waste of food,
when they said they don't even have enough to eat."

6 Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto offered shelter, medical attention, schooling, jobs to Central Americans traveling in a caravan through his country, calling it a first step toward permanent refugee status.
Authorities said more than 1,700 had already applied for refugee status.
But several thousand turned down Nieto's offer, continuing their march to the US border.

This suggests: that most of the migrant are a group of hardcore pick-and-choose activists who will settle for nothing less than U.S. benefit packages.

http://www.thisisinsider.com/caravan-turns-down-mexico-offer-marches-to-us-border-2018-10
I see a lot of young military age men in the pics on a truck not walking.

How many people would come to Australia and other Western countries if they got the same help from our Governments as they were getting from the leaders in the countries they left?

'In a statement, Soros and Mastercard declared that government aid programs haven't been enough to solve the issues facing refugees, suggesting that this is a problem that only the private sector can solve.'

Sounds like an argument for rule by corporations.

How many refugees does Soros have living over at his place?

The real evil here is those who for political reasons have encouraged these fools to embark on this adventure.

Obviously the US can't let them in, to do so means total loss of control of their boarders. So what do these fools have left. Their future is going to look pretty bleak, when their pushers have finished with them, & the Mexicans get sick of them.

This well happen as soon as their surreptitious funding disappears, & they get hungry.

To Mr Rache.

I would be very happy to debate with you the causes of worldwide poverty, the result of which we see today in the legal and illegal immigration of poor people into European countries.

The primary reason for poverty is low intelligence, which usually results in a culture which exhibits the traits of low intelligence. Low intelligence is primarily a factor of genetics.

Some ethnicities have low intelligence, and the independent countries that have created become completely dysfunctional. Very poor countries containing smart populations eventually rise above their extreme poverty and become rich countries, as we have witnessed with the Asian economic miracle. Very poor countries containing populations with low intelligence are unable to form stable functioning states. One very good reason for this is the very high birth rates of people with low intelligence. The only hope for these people is to either be colonized by a paternalistic society of civilized, high intelligence people, or for the entire populations of these low intelligence people to immigrate into the societies of people with generally much higher intelligence.

But all this does, is to gradually shrink the territories of people with high intelligence. Despite all the calls from within high intelligence societies for "diversity" and "equality", the fact remains that only a minority of people from low intelligence countries (the smart ones) will ever be accepted into the ranks of the high intelligence population.

This means that the territories of the low intelligence populations will continue to expand with their growing birth rates, creating new dysfunctional societies within smart societies. (California, Detroit, London, Sweden).

As the realization among low birth rate, high intelligence populations that they have imported high birth rate populations of low intelligence people, whom they will be expected to support forever, hostility towards the imported populations will grow. This is exacerbated by the hostility from low intelligence people towards high intelligence people who are there benefactors. This hostility is fueled by high intelligence people who seek power and personnel fulfillment by blaming high intelligence people for the problems of low intelligence people.

Lego,
The do-gooders won't feel too good about realising that they're the cause.

There is another caravan on the way, appears to have a lot more violent people in it.

Also see the pics they have lots of big trucks as support plus other support vehicles, someone is paying for this no way they could pay.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6331353/Second-migrant-caravan-storms-Mexico.html?fbclid=IwAR2cCJFV_tcUMgFwmEj3DQO4Prfhpo1_v1HzGg76HmAzFmyX6PLWzAjUInY

Second migrant caravan storms into Mexico: 'Violent' group from Central America carrying BOMBS and guns defies a huge police presence to cross the border from Guatemala as Trump deploys 5,200 troops

The second caravan making their way up through Central America have members armed with explosives
Had gasoline bombs made of soft-drink bottles, and improvised PVC tubes to launch fireworks
Mexican federal police briefly blocked the migrants from crossing the Suchiate River on Monday
But the migrants soon defied the law enforcement presence and broke through into Mexico
Many tried to swim or wade across to Mexico, some while carrying children
Law enforcement avoided a second day of violence, a day after a confrontation left one migrant dead

The second group back at the Guatemalan frontier has been more unruly than the first that crossed. Guatemala's Interior Ministry said Guatemalan police officers were injured when the migrant group broke through border barriers on Guatemala's side of the bridge.

Mexico authorities said migrants attacked its agents with rocks, glass bottles and fireworks when they broke through a gate on the Mexican end but were pushed back, and some allegedly carried guns and firebombs.

On Monday, Mexican Interior Secretary Alfonso Navarrete Prida lamented what he called a second 'violent attempt' to storm the border, accusing people of placing the elderly, pregnant women and children at the front, putting them at risk of being crushed.

Trump blamed for tear gas used on invaders BUT media conveniently forgets Obama did it too.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/obama-agents-pepper-sprayed-migrants-history-challenges-caravan-response-outrage

Democrats are expressing outrage that U.S. border agents on Sunday shot rounds of tear gas at caravan migrants who threw rocks at law enforcement while trying to breach the U.S.-Mexico border. But critics hammering the Trump administration are glossing over a similar episode that occurred under then-President Barack Obama.

In 2013, during the Obama administration, Border Patrol agents reportedly used pepper spray to fend off a group of approximately 100 migrants who attempted to rush the same San Ysidro port of entry.

A San Diego Union-Tribune article at the time said agents fired "pepper balls" and used other “intermediate use-of-force devices” to repel the crowd. The migrants in that confrontation also reportedly threw rocks and bottles at U.S. authorities.

But with the national spotlight on Sunday's caravan clash at San Ysidro, Democrats are lashing out at the Trump administration.

Life not so good now time to go home.

This raises 1 very important question, if this is how it is now why was the hundreds of KM"s they came not as bad, why was the travel supposedly walking and nights so much easier?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6442527/Migrants-begin-turn-diseases-endemic-Tijuana.html

EXCLUSIVE: Hundreds of migrants begin to 'self-deport' back to Central America as TB, chicken pox and lice become endemic at squalid Tijuana sports complex with only 35 portable toilets and nine showers - sheltering 6,000 people

Hundreds of Central American migrants are beginning to turn back home rather than continue to stay in the filth-strewn Benito Juarez sports complex in Tijuana, Mexico

Tijuana's Health Department revealed on Thursday that some migrants are suffering from tuberculosis, chickenpox, skin infections, and there have been four confirmed cases of HIV/AIDS

Mexican officials revealed that around 200 migrants volunteered this week for repatriation, with more than a hundred having already flown home from Tijuana's airport Monday

Salvadoran Clara Daniela, 17, told DailyMail.com: 'The smell is so bad. There is no privacy for women when you take a shower,' adding, 'We will try to stay for now but it's becoming more and more tempting to go'

She revealed organizations have been facilitating trips back home for those who have 'had enough' by sending them on buses to get a flight
counted 35 porta potties for the thousands of residents, many overflowing with excrement and with no means for the migrants to wash their hands

There were nine open air showers divided into three blocks, with one designated for female migrants who use blankets as a makeshift screen for a degree of privacy