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Religious Freedom Act should be opposed as a back-door Bill of Rights : Comments

By Lorraine Finlay, published 6/8/2018

The problem in this case is that a Religious Freedom Act could ultimately be used, paradoxically, to undermine the very freedoms it is meant to protect.

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“the right to believe in a non violent religion that can not impose itself by violent means.
CHERFUL,
That would stop the fanatics you think ?

Just like Christian Paedophiles whose career is based on God ?
Posted by individual, Monday, 6 August 2018 5:49:20 PM
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Dear CHERFUL,

«Maybe the Bill should read, “the right to believe in a non violent religion that can not impose itself by violent means.»

This is redundant because religion and violence are contradictory terms.

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Dear Alan,

«Religious freedom already adequately guaranteed in our constitution!»

No, it is not.

All that the Australian constitution guarantees is that no special laws will be made to oppose religion ("Commonwealth not to legislate in respect of religion"): nothing at present protects against the indirect prohibition of religious practices by other laws and nothing at present prevents legislation that indirectly demands religious people to act in ways that are prohibited by their religion.

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Dear Individual,

«Just like Christian Paedophiles whose career is based on God ?»

1) Everything is based on God, including every career.
2) Christians are supposed to be paedophiles (child-loving).
3) When "paedophiles" is mentioned in the abusive context of mixing up love with sex, there are no Christian "paedophiles", only "paedophiles" who pretend to be Christian.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 6 August 2018 6:20:50 PM
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Yuyutsu you say,
“This is redundant because religion and violence are contradictory terms.”

Violence and religion are not contradictory terms. The Muslim Koran(religion),actually commands
muslims to kill non believers. The Infidel.

Religion and violence were certainly bedfellows when the Catholic Church persecuted
the “The Heretics” in middle centuries England.

God should command love and peace, true spirituality. I think you are referring to this
when you make the above statement. But alas,religion is always deciphered by mankind.
And mankind is very far removed from the true spirituality and wisdom of God.
So any laws made in respect to enshrining relious rights would have to deal with the violence of religion in the world we have here and now..
Posted by CHERFUL, Monday, 6 August 2018 10:03:46 PM
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Individual,

No I don’t think it will stop the fanatics, I’ve never had much faith in treaties or laws
they are not worth the paper they are written on unless there is willingness to enforce them

As for the gender benders, I do not think they should expect the Christian Church to
go against their religious beliefs and marry them. And I’m not against gay marriages
But there are plenty of ways they can find marriage celebrants to marry them.

They may even find celebrants who are Christian to marry them
I don’t see why they couldn’t have a civil wedding, and then get a devout Christian friend or person to marry them
in Gods most beautiful church. The great outdoors.
Posted by CHERFUL, Monday, 6 August 2018 10:20:00 PM
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They may even find celebrants who are Christian to marry them
CHERFUL,
I imagine they'd be blasé kind or fake Christians then or do you think a committed Christian would participate ?
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 7:06:26 AM
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Re Individual's comment: Because, if there really is such a God he definitely doesn't need to be worshipped, he just wants people to be decent.

Exactly. In fact, that's precisely what the Christian bible says, it's just been badly misunderstood.

Clergy are not in the habit of quoting Amos 5:21-24 - "I hate, I despise your religious feasts; I cannot stand your assemblies. Even though you bring me burnt offerings and grain offerings, I will not accept them ... Away with the noise of your songs! I will not listen to the music of your harps. But let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-failing stream".

In other words, don't sit around in church singing hymns, get out there and start doing some good deeds.
Posted by WilliamS, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 10:20:25 AM
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