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The worst of wasteful government spending : Comments

By Brendan O'Reilly, published 2/8/2018

It is also common for politicians to arrange a 'work' meeting as a pretext for a holiday, social or campaigning event so that the taxpayer bears what should be a private travel cost.

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Yep and we still keep voting them in........
The GIGO rule in spades.
Posted by ateday, Thursday, 2 August 2018 10:35:12 AM
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And, Australia is virtually defenceless: only 19 days of fuel in store; dud submarines unavailable for decades yet; ditto with the F35, and a command more interested in diversity and gender reassignment than killing the enemy.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 2 August 2018 10:59:42 AM
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A patent political propaganda piece, in my view!

The conservatives in the room will always see most social welfare a wasteful spending!

And climate change as crap? Even as we have just gone through a July, the hottest on record in places here in OZ!

But not ever against much more expensive pork barrelled entitlements and legislated tax loopholes that allows some of our biggest guest enterprises to pay no tax? About quarter of our corporate Australia? Arguably because they also receive some supposed benefits?

And waste even more by providing income support (Polly's job start) for a long since redundant middle tier of government and the replication that, that then imposes on a limited budget!

Smaller government and reduced government spending has always been the goal of true liberals. Except where it involves less of them with their overfed snouts in the taxpayer-funded money trough.

One thing we can agree on Brendan is the absolute pragmatism of buying a few Nuclear powered nuclear capable subs from the shelf. And because this option would likely cost less over the forward estimates? But far more importantly, put fewer Aussie service lives in harm's way!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 2 August 2018 12:14:06 PM
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We used to own a number of income earning, public facilities and amenity. All of which contributed their profit streams to the budget bottom line, business growth and confidence?

Given they allowed the nation-state to retain some control over the cost of both capital and energy And fund most of social welfare?

But sold like anything not nailed down by the coalition at the over-represented conservatives pulling the leader's strings?

Were I in Malcolm Turnbull's inevitable position, having to reject his own core values just to appease the idiots in the cabinet room, I would offer to stand down and resign from both parliament and my seat.

Which I would recontest as an independent at both the by-election and subsequent general election!

Before I would compromise my own inherent Christian values/core beliefs!

Leaving me free to cross the floor at will! While Tomato head and fellow travellers turned pink and pale purple or some combination of all the above as they realised they'd signed their party's death warrant?

And see how well they faired mit monsieur Korman at the helm? Or Commandant Dutton?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 2 August 2018 12:36:25 PM
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Only in the final case do I agree with Brendan. Of the other seven:
1. The really big waste of government money was signing the contract to build the tunnel in the first place, for the specifications were way over what was needed. A lower capacity tunnel at around half the cost would have been a far better solution.

2. Water security was needed - it would have been grossly irresponsible to risk our cities running out of water. And now we have the desalination plants available for when we need them.

However, the Federal funding decision to build the Adelaide desalination plant to full capacity from day 1 (rather than half capacity and upgradable as the state government originally intended) was a bad one.

3. As nuclear submarines are unsuitable for shallow water, I think diesel subs were the better choice. But it's something none of us can know for sure because their main purpose is espionage and therefore it can never be made public.

And self reliance is far more important for defence than for other purposes.

4. Expensive electricity is certainly a problem, but it's not because of systematic destruction nor high baseload costs. Inefficient cross subsidies are part of the problem, but there are two much bigger problems: firstly the industry doesn't have access to cheap finance, and secondly the market simply doesn't operate efficiently.

But we must shun coal. We're currently the worlds second highest emitter per capita despite the fact that we're a very sunny country.

5. FTTN was a terrible waste of government money, and they paid far too much for the coaxial cables as many were in poor condition. But the part of the NBN that was built as originally envisaged is good nation-building infrastructure. As for 5G providing stiff competition, they said that about 4G: initially it seemed to, but as more people used it, it slowed right down.

An evental selloff would also be a big mistake.

(TBC)
Posted by Aidan, Thursday, 2 August 2018 1:41:32 PM
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Brendan O'Reilly, who used to preside over the state's shambolic disability department, thinks that the NDIS is a waste of government money. His public servants used to barricade themselves behind locked doors to prevent traumatized and exhausted families with no help at all from leaving their severely disabled children at the door. He saw first hand the desperate need and he thinks the NDIS is a political stunt.Is it memory loss, I wonder?
Posted by estelles, Thursday, 2 August 2018 1:56:32 PM
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(continued)

6. The biggest problem with education spending is that the Federal government funds private schools more than state schools. It should be the other way round, to encourage state governments to run good quality schools that people would want to send their children to!

BER was generally good, though in some states it fell victim to problem 8.

As university gives people the skills to do higher value work, lifting the restrictions on student numbers was the right decision.

7. Considering the quality of life improvements it will bring, the NDIS is money well spent. And by making our disabled people more productive, it may ultimately be self funding (though as the money from that increased productivity would go into general revenue, that won't stop people whinging about the cost).

Australia is a rich country - of course we can afford the NDIS! If Abbott's mob lacked the courage to lie in this instance, I can only say it's a shame their cowardice wasn't more widespread!
Posted by Aidan, Thursday, 2 August 2018 2:00:39 PM
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Estelles

You are mixing me (the current author) up with another Brendan O'Reilly, who is a respected former senior NSW public servant. I never "used to preside over the state's shambolic disability department", as you allege. Lots of people can share the same name.

Brendan
Posted by Bren, Thursday, 2 August 2018 3:51:12 PM
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Federal government funds private schools more than state schools. It should be the other way round,
Aidan,
Unfortunately, with the standard of teachers in the public system, the Government gets more for it's Dollars from private schools. The notion of free education for all is seriously flawed. It has to be free education for those capable of learning.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 2 August 2018 8:02:02 PM
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Individual -
Even if that's true, which I very much doubt, it's a state problem which the current federal funding arrangements discourage state governments from fixing.
Posted by Aidan, Friday, 3 August 2018 1:28:00 AM
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More Fed education funding goes to the private sector. More state education funding goes to the public sector.

There are historic reasons for that but it does create distortions. The fact is however that, overall, a kid in the public system receives significantly more government funding than a kid in the private sector.

School vouchers would resolve all such anomalies and disputes and would most likely significantly improve the overall quality of education - provided parents were able to use the voucher wherever they felt it best suited their child.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 3 August 2018 8:02:14 AM
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