Oh yes I forgot to ask;
How many Megawatts does the NEG generate ?
Hmmm none ! Then what the hell is it all about.
Talk about fiddling while Rome burns !

Aidan the article may be very creative with the figure but so are the climate change people but the fact that they are subsidized can't be denied.

John Ryan - As I asked before where is your proof?

As for trump if you are so certain of his criminality give your evidence to the FBI or is the evidence in your vivid imagination?
Obviously you have more evidence than the FBI because to this moment they have been unable to arrest him, or are you a believer in a person is Guilty till proven innocent?

A short read from James Hansen re coal and renewables.

https://tinyurl.com/y9rhvxt2

Philip S,
> the article may be very creative with the figure
If so then it's deliberately misleading its readers, which is quite a serious allegation.
But I think it's just being sloppy.

> but so are the climate change people
Evidence?

> but the fact that they are subsidized can't be denied.
Nobody's trying to deny it. But I have suggested an alternative.

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Luciferase,
Your link is paywalled.
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Bazz,

> The multiplier that is being discussed depends on the size of the area
over which the wind generators are spread.
And yet it's depicted as the same for all states!

> Batteries are not sources of power but are consumers of power.
In a net sense that's true. But look a little more closely and you'll find that batteries, like all forms of storage, are sources of power when it's needed and consumers of power when it's abundant.

> A study in the UK showed that they would need 14,000 batteries the
size of Sth Aus's battery.
For what purpose? Unless you specify that, your comment is almost meaningless.

>It is totally irrelevant whether AGW is real or not.
> I just do not care anyway as fossil fuels will be unaffordable before
any effects are noticed.
Alas that not true, as effects are already being noticed.

> Temperature rises before CO2 rises !
I presume you're referring to the natural temperature fluctuations. These start as a variation of solar radiation reaching Earth, but are amplified by the changing CO2 levels.

Works for me, just close the pop-up or

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2018/06/26/thirty-years-later-what-needs-change-our-approach-climate-change/dUhizA5ubUSzJLJVZqv6GP/story.html

Luciferase If you take out the S in the link it will work as a link here.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2018/06/26/thirty-years-later-what-needs-change-our-approach-climate-change/dUhizA5ubUSzJLJVZqv6GP/story.html