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Conservatism and the demise of Israel : Comments

By Peter Bowden, published 23/5/2018

Once Iran has a missile and a nuclear warhead, they will be launched. Israel has atomic bombs also.

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Everything about the United Nations is a “farce”. It is the UN and Mr. Bowen who are “unbelievable”. And I'm sure that Bolt has not 'ignored’ the Palestinian Muslim terrorists besieging Israel. And most of the 'Palestinians’ came from Syria. The are landless and unnamed until they were dubbed 'Palestinian’ by someone who thought they should be recognised.

America’s and Australia's support is not “questionable”. Of course they are going to support a democracy, like their own, against non-democratic, Muslim terrorist barbarians.

“There is no love lost in Iran for Israel or for the United States”, advises Bowen. There is no love in Iran, sworn to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, full stop. Love is not associated with Islam or Islamic countries. And the name of Barak Obama will be on the warhead of any missile fired by that stinking sh---hole into democratic Israel, along with the names of those European 'failing’ states who are in league with the UN in trying to block President Trump’s political action against Iran.

Israel is “so aggressive” (any sane person calls it defence) because Mr. Bowen “has worked in the Middle East over many years, including Iran” and has clearly been brainwashed into being anti-Israel, if not anti-Semitic.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 9:59:19 AM
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Once Iran has a nuclear missile they will use it! And against Israel, who will surely retaliate with systems the Iranians don't even suspect they have. Resulting in a large sea of volcanic glass and no Iranians or Israelis or Palestinians. Unless you count fleas, cockroaches and rats as Israelis, Palestinians or Iranians? Why bother, nothing, least of all common sense or even, rarer Christian charity and goodwill to all men is going to deter the mad rush by madmen to their own annihilation? And possibly a full two-thirds of the rest of the world. We could prepare for this and by becoming an Island of cash and carry sanity, in a world gone mad! Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 23 May 2018 10:40:26 AM
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One nuclear bomb will not destroy Israel. It will kill 10,000's, but Israel will recover and Iran will no longer be there once nuked with 100's of such bombs in return.

It would be nice to solve the Palestinian issues, but it has no connection with Iran: Iran would do anything it can to destroy Israel even if there was total peace and love between Israel and the Palestinians: the reason Iran hates Israel and will continue to hate it, is that Israel was the Shah's best ally - they will never forget, never forgive.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 11:10:05 AM
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Yuyutsu,

There is a connection alright. Hamas is a client of Iran.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 11:34:32 AM
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Actually this is probably the only workable solution for the middle east, & good riddance to the lot of them. At least it would stop all immigration to Oz from the area, so not all bad.

In passing, am I the only one who has noticed that those who like to refer to themselves as ethicist are the most radical lefty ratbags of all. I wonder if they speak English as a third or forth language, & don't really understand the meaning of the world?
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 11:54:54 AM
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Dear Ttbn,

The connection between Iran and Hamas is opportunistic: Iran is Shiite and Hamas are Sunni - if ever Israel is destroyed, Iran would destroy Hamas and the Palestinians next.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 12:15:50 PM
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>Once Iran has a missile and a nuclear warhead, they will be launched.

No they won't. Iran's leaders may be corrupt ideologues, but they're not suicidal.
Posted by Aidan, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 3:40:44 PM
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a uni professor writing such garbage? If Peter can't see why Israel is aggressive he certainly needs to drop his sick warped narrative. And now he is involved in business 'ethics'? The swamp certainly needs draining.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 4:01:30 PM
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Unlikely Mr Bowen. Unlikely.

Nuclear weapons are only ever used to strengthen negotiation outcomes. There is no evidence to support otherwise. This is the most fearful reality of the Israelis, a strengthening Iranian hand.

Actually, the reverse of Peter Bowden predictions is more likely. When Iran achieve nuclear weapons, peace will follow
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 6:10:46 PM
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The analysis that I have read is that Israel has the 3rd or 4th largest nuclear arsenal in the world with somewhere in the region of 200 warheads with a significant number of thermonuclear warheads.

Secondly, Israel has the Iron Dome and other battle-tested anti-missile systems that would knock out the majority of any Iranian crude missiles.

Only if Iran is prepared to sacrifice all its cities and an order of magnitude more people than Israel's entire population would it be stupid enough to try. The only benefit would be a deterrent to an Israeli first strike.

Coupled with the vast cost of developing nukes and the crippling sanctions it would face if it did proceed to build the nukes, this is not an option that any sane government would follow.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 24 May 2018 12:53:26 PM
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Only one thing wrong with that SM. What ever gave you the idea that the Ayatollahs were sane.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 24 May 2018 1:15:18 PM
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Hey Peter. The Islamic civilisation is the sworn enemy of your civilisation They have been attacking us for 1400 hundred years and that only ceased during the 18th century when Islam became so backward that it could no longer attack the west, and it became easy meat for a western counterattack.

But there is more than one way to skin a rat, and the mullahs are enthusiastic about Islamic immigration into the west, because they know that they can destroy YOUR civilisation through immigration and birth rate differentials.

Israel is one country which will never submit to Islamic invasion, either militarily or through immigration, and as such, I am proud that my country was one of only two countries in the whole world that supported Islam's most effective enemy. Israel is our ally against Islam.

Don't give me that crap about the poor Palestinians. Milions of Jews have been driven from their homes in every Arab country there is,and most have gone to Israel as their only safe haven. The Arabs could solve the whole Palestinian problem tomorrow by allowing "Palestinians" to become citizens of their own countries, but they will never do that.

The reason is entirely religious. Muslims are incensed that a religion who's homeland they conquered has come back to the place of it's origin. The Mullahs are exactly like Hitler who declared that where a German soldier conquers, that is German land forever. The problem is not ISrael, it is the evil, scheming, superstitious mullahs, who think that they will live high on the hog forever in eternity if they can just crush Israel.

Your sympathies with our collective enemy should be a source of enduring shame to you. Tell the damned Arabs to leave Israel alone and the problem will go away. But it will never go away because the religious nut case mullah's don't want it to go away. The mullahs need Israel like Oceania needed Big Brother.
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 26 May 2018 8:25:52 AM
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Shadow Minister,
http://youtu.be/4NCncdy89Q4
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 26 May 2018 9:57:51 AM
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