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Why aren’t more people 'factful'? : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 3/5/2018

Every group Rosling sought answers from saw the world as 'more frightening, more violent, and more hopeless - in short, more dramatic - than it really is'.

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BINGO!

Sciency thing...yadda yadda yadda...climate change!

Nice one Don.
Posted by Bugsy, Thursday, 3 May 2018 3:39:53 PM
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Hi Aidan,

And that would be in their files, if it were the case. Bureaucrats don't usually get rid of files (except the odd Federal cabinet-full), so anybody who was interested can look up their file, in their State Archives.

Don't believe every sob-story you hear, Aidan. I was talking to a retired copper about families with grog and violence problems and he said, "Yeah, our car was on auto-pilot, it knew the way so well." I'd suggest that between thirty and fifty would be the number of call-outs by police, social workers, ambulances, etc., that would be recorded in the files of many children taken into long-term care.

A friend was put into care with his brothers (in one Home) and sisters (in another Home) for about a year since their family was destitute, the mother had had a bit of a break-down and constant child-bearing had worn her down. The father got a better job, the eldest boy went off to work and the family came back together and carried on.

As well, going back a few generations, many Aboriginal mothers died in childbirth, leaving a widowed father to somehow look after his kids and at the same time go out to work on farms or shearing: how to do both ? Often he might have re-married, but like anybody else, many times he would have had to put his kids into care, perhaps for a short time, perhaps for a loooong time. And fathers died, so mothers had no bread-winner unless they could get re-married, and - lo and behold ! - their teenage daughters are then packed off to the Girls' Home. It all would be in people's files.

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 3 May 2018 4:00:58 PM
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Aidan, That is just another Left fantasy, but I suspect you know that. Children were removed because their parents were incapable, incompetent or unwilling to care for them. My grandmother was one of those children and I wouldn't be here if the white family who saved her had turned their backs.
Posted by calwest, Thursday, 3 May 2018 4:28:54 PM
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runner,
>people are not factful because they love living a lie.
That much is often true. But you also seem to love living a lie.

Evolution is a phenomenon, not a fantasy. There's overwhelming evidence for it, no evidence whatsoever against it, but you choose to dismiss it because you can't face the fact that the truth does not correspond to your flawed understanding of the word of God.

GW is also a phenomenon. Most people who deny it do so based on wishful thinking. When they discover things that the climate scientists have long known about and incorporated into their models, they immediately assume they've discovered things that the climate scientists are ignorant of. And when they read of new discoveries, they immediately assume a greatly increased significance (for example after it was discovered that higher CO2 levels reduce the amount of water going into the air by transpiration, one of the posters here wrongly took it to mean that higher CO2 reduced atmospheric water vapour levels.

But you're even worse than that, because you let the neocons fool you into thinking belief in GW is a religion (and therefore evil).
Do you understand that? I'll put it another way:
YOU LET THE LIES OF ATHEISTS DETERMINE YOUR POSITION ON GLOBAL WARMING! And now you do their bidding, spreading lies about what's happening in our atmosphere. And God detests that.
Posted by Aidan, Thursday, 3 May 2018 4:31:36 PM
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calwest,
Of course many children were rescued and taken away for good reasons. But the fact remains that thousands were taken away for dubious reasons.

Loudmouth,
I don't know whether it's in the files or not, but I'd caution against assuming bureaucratic allegations of neglect to be genuine.

"I'd suggest that between thirty and fifty would be the number of call-outs by police, social workers, ambulances, etc., that would be recorded in the files of many children taken into long-term care."
And I'd suggest the bulk of the Stolen Generations problem predates that.
Posted by Aidan, Thursday, 3 May 2018 4:48:50 PM
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LM,

"So, so far, only that one case. Any evidence of others ? Evidence is what counts,"

I afraid you've (somehow) misconstrued my point. I was only arguing with your claim that there was one proven stolen generation case. In my view Trevorrow wasn't part of the stolen generation and therefore there are no cases.

Lot's of people taken for whatever reason, and very large numbers removed (using Lois O'Donoghue's sleight-of-hand terminology) at the request or instigation of their parents but none, not one, taken simple because they were aboriginal.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 3 May 2018 5:19:30 PM
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